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« on: November 29, 2008, 01:58:45 AM »

Members of this R1b1b2 forum, please excuse my post on this matter, however, I must address the exclusion of DYS #385a and 385b at 11 and 17 research posted on a different venue. Offering opinions and analysis on genetic data is acceptable to me, but consistently ignoring data and refusing to acknowledge research by others is totally unacceptable and quite honestly utterly delusional. How anyone can honestly repeatedly ignore research into DYS #385a and 385b at 11 and 17 posted at ( Of the Nolans is beyond belief. Consistent patterns of misinformation cannot be tolerated in our genetic genealogy community. All avenues of discussion are open in our genetic genealogy community, but please be inclusive and do not tolerate the exclusionary antics of some in our growing community.

From: "David Faux" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Can anyone top this - R1b1b2a1b4c1
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008

"In a few rare cases the haplotype will help. For example there is the well
established Ashkenazi cluster with DYS385a,b=14,14 and DYS492=14 scattered
all over Eastern Europe but which is also found in Baden - Wurttemberg, and
the Southern USA. Also there is the 11,17 /14 motif that is found in an
Italian from Naples and a fellow whose pedigree traces to East Anglia. For
a number of reasons I see the common denominator being the perambulating
Boii tribe. I don't know about your 11,16 / 12 motif whether this will form
a meaningful haplotype cluster with others. I guess success in this
endeavor depends, surprise, on collecting a larger and more representative
sample. We are really just starting to crack the nut open thanks to the
discoveries via 23andme.

David K. Faux."


Glenn Allen Nolen
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