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« on: November 21, 2005, 01:10:30 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2006, 04:21:13 PM »


Adam b Germany m Maggie Faut
John Christian Schmitt b12/23, 1829 Germany m Barbara Hittinger (Hoettinger) Germany
August Schmitt b06/ 09, 1875 Michigan USA m Clara A Brazeau b04/01, 1878 Michigan USA
John Francis Smith b 10/ 25, 1915 Detroit Michigan  m Mary L Ryan b 01/ 19, 1916 Emmett, Michigan
Monica R Smith m James P Constantino Grosse Pointe Michigan 1977
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« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2006, 09:55:41 PM »

MTdna pedigree can't do one surname
Philomina Goecke b. 1860 Ger.  d. 1932 KY.
m. Anton Niemeyer b. 1848 Ger
Their children were...
Minnie b. 1884 Cincinnati, Oh. d. 1968 Cin.
Geo. b. 1882 Cin. OH
Emma b. 1889 Cin. OH
Josephine b. 1891 Cin. OH  d. 1949 Cin.
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« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2006, 07:48:24 PM »

Conrad Uhl b1798 Germany m. Charlotta
Jacob b.1825 m. Catharina Fink b.1828
John b. 1847 Baltimore, MD m. Lousia Kaelber(Kalbert, Kalber)
Jacob b. 1874 m. Rosina Kratz
John b. 1903 m. Catherine Yunker( Junker)
John II b. 1930 Baltimore, MD
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« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2006, 11:37:57 PM »

SCHALLHORN, Eleanor m. Gottfried MIELKE 25 Sep 1816, Gross Tychow, Belgard, Pommern
MIELKE, Sophie Louise Laurette b.15 Aug 1819, Gross Tychow, m. Carl Otto GUMZ, immigr to Elroy,WI. 1875
GUMZ, Emilie Caroline b.30 Jun 1852, Gross Tychow, m. Johann Albert MOHNS 10 Jan 1876, Elroy, WI
MOHNS, Ida Emilie Regina b. 7 Sep 1878, Monroe Cnty, WI, m Friedrich Wilhelm SCHAUER 10 Jan 1897
SCHAUER, Hilde Emma Emilie, b. 13 Oct 1912, Monroe Cnty, WI, m. Arthur Carl ERICKSON 20 Oct 1934
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« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2007, 11:31:06 AM »

DNA Y-Project:  Thomas Bernard THANK
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Ancestory LIne:  John THANK. b. unkn, Germany
Shawn Thomas THANK. b. 17 Aug., 1968, Everett, Snohomish County, WA. x Tiffany___ ; m. 1994, Milwaukie, Clackamas County, Ore.
Thomas Bernard THANK. b. 26 March, 1938, Spokane, Spokane County, Washington. x Linda Mary SINRUD, b. Coeur d'Alene, Kootani County, Idaho, 13 May, 1944. m. Dec. 27, 1964, Alderwood Manor, Snohomish County, WA..
John Thomas THANK. b. 17 Dec. 1905, Goodrich, Sask. Prov., Canada; d. 30 July 1987, PUyallup, Pierce Co., WA., x Pearl N. JAMES, b. 4 October, 1904, Wallace, Idaho, d. 22 May 1992  m. 27 Feb., 1927, Wallace, Shoshone Co., Idaho.
John Joseph THANK. b. 29 Aug. 1878, Milwaukee, Wisconsin; d. 29 MaY 1961,  V.A. Hospital, Spokane, WA. x " Lucy" Theresa Lucille  BREEN, b. 1 Oct 1887, Devils Lake, Ramsey County, North Dakota; d. 18 May 1959, Reno, Washoe County, Nevada.  m. 31 July, 1902, Bottineau, Bottineau County, North Dakota.
John THANK, b. unkn., Germany, d. unkn.  x Anna  SCHMIDT, b. unkn., Germany
or a.k.a. Mary BLACK, unkn.,  Germany (two names given in personal papers); d. unkn. m. likely in Wisconsin bef or abt 1878.
Possible links:  TANK family with son Johann b 1778 in Milwaukee census of 1880;  Possible male John THANK listed Milwaukee, born Mecklenburg in the 1870 census.  Surname supposedly "changed"
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« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2007, 10:08:55 PM »

Otto Ernest Koch born 1630's Holstein married Christina/Kirsten Nilsdotter(Swedish girl)
Valentine  born abt 1672 married Margaret Swanson/Svensson(Swedish girl)
Zacharias Cox born circa 1715-20 Delaware,USA married Mary ?
Isaac Cox born circa 1750 North Carolina,USA married Elizabeth?
William Cox born abt 1786-90 North Carolina married Rachel?
Hezekiah Cox born abt 1818 North Carolina married Elizabeth Loveless
James Madison Cox born abt 1845 Indiana married Amanda Amos
Homer Cox born abt 1875 Indiana married Hattie Stephens
James Madison Cox born 1901 Indiana married Rachel Anderson
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« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2007, 04:17:07 PM »

Wilmers,Frank W., Nurnberg,Germany
Wilmers,Wiliam J.,Los Vagas,Nev. USA
Wilmers,Joseph d.1951
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« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2008, 11:53:14 AM »

1. Awrajam Kaufmann b c.1810 d. 6 Apr 1872 m. unknown
2. Elieser Simon Kaufmann b. 28 Apr 1832 Germany d. 10 Nov 1902 Irlich, Germany m. Karoline "Kela" Meyer b. c. 1833 Germany d. 03 Feb 1882 Irlich, Germany m. abt 1853
3. Leopold Kaufmann b 27 Jun 1858 Irlich Germany d. 27 Jun 1929 Mayen, Germany m. Susanna Mayer b. 16 Aug 1854 Mayen Germany, d Apr 1930 Mayen, Germany m. c. 1882, Mayen Germany
4. Seligman Kaufmann b. 18 Feb 1884 Mayen Germany, d. 6 Aug 1954 Los Angeles, CA, USA changed name to Charles Schwartz m. Jewel "Julia" Cziller b. 02 Oct 1888 Meriden, CT, USA d. 02 Oct 1960 Los Angeles, CA, USA m. 21 Sep 1910, New York City NY, USA
5. Erwin Victor Schwartz b. 23 Jul 1911 Bridgeport CT, USA d. 13 Mar 1992 Culver City, Los Angeles County, USA m. Living Cohen b. 2 Jan 1918 Los Angeles CA, USA m. 28 Aug 1938 Los Angeles, CA

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« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2008, 05:44:23 PM »

Family Pedigree - William Ziegler [zieglerdna AT]

Jacob Ziegler Sr, d c1852, Germany, m Elizabeth P Draups
   Friedrich Ziegler Sr, b c1822, Germany, d Germany, m Maria-Eva
      Friedrich Ziegler Jr, b c1845, Germany
      Elizabeth Ziegler, b c1847, Germany
      George Ziegler, b c1849, Germany
      Michael Ziegler, b c1852, Germany
   Michael Ziegler Sr, b Nov 25 1828, Germany, d Jun 6 1913, WI, m Margerette Anna Lippert
      John George Ziegler, b Oct 10 1856, PA, d Aug 19 1930, WI, m Amelia Wilhelmine L Rohleder
         William Ferdinand Ziegler, b Mar 21 1891, d Jul 17 1963, m Esther Anna Lubkie
         Anna Margarethe Ziegler, b Nov 22 1892, d Mar 8 1984, m Robert Geretzek
         Edward Michael Ziegler, b Apr 22 1895, d Apr 16 1977, m Lydia Anderson
         Herman Fredrick Ziegler, b Sep 18 1896, d Jun 24 1973, m Anna Margette Gust
         Emma Wilhelame Ziegler, b Feb 14 1898, d Dec 30 1986, m John W Niedfeldt
         Margarete Friedericke Ziegler, b Feb 4 1900, d Aug 10 1979
      Elisabeth Ziegler, b Nov 12 1859, PA, d c1863, PA
      Fredrick August Theodore Ziegler, b Oct 23 1861, PA, d Nov 17 1942, WI, m Mattie Simpson
         Nora Emma Ziegler, b Mar 13 1891, d Sep 16 1968, m Arthur Hare
         Anton Joseph Ziegler, b Oct 27 1896, d Nov 19 1975, m Olive Marian Kube
         Baby Ziegler, b Oct 27 1896, d Oct 27 1896
         Albert W Ziegler, b Aug 9 1899, d Apr 29 1992, m Ester Wolfe
         N F Ziegler, b 1907, d Jun 16 1994
      Catherine Ziegler, b Jan 16 1863, PA, d Dec 31 1941, WI, m Martin Schmidt
      Elisabeth Ziegler, b Apr 19 1864, PA, d Feb 9 1944, WI, m Philip John Koenig
      Peter Ziegler, b Nov 16 1866, PA, d Apr 11 1944, WI, m Marie Koenig
         Erna M Ziegler, b Aug 1894, d 1962
         Esther Sophia Ziegler, b May 4 1898, d Apr 1979, m Fred J Adler
      Jacob A Ziegler, b May 4 1868, PA, d Nov 22 1939, WI, m Kate Keller
         Ida Alvina Ziegler, b Jul 23 1896, d Apr 2 1975, m John Juluis Bey
         Leona Ziegler, b Mar 27 1900, d Aug 5 1984, m Henry Koopman
         Unnamed Ziegler, b Jun 30 1901, d Jun 30 1901
         Emil W Ziegler, b Jul 28 1904, d Nov 24 1981, m Olive Cecelia Platteter
      John Ziegler, b Feb 10 1870, PA, d Nov 14 1936, WI, m Minnie R Haeuser
         L P Ziegler, b 1906, d Jan 20 1995, m Bork
         H C Ziegler, b 1909, d Jul 19 1993, m Finner
      Michael Ziegler Jr, b Dec 1 1872, PA, d Jul 30 1943, WI, m Augusta Elizabeth Schlag
         E H Ziegler, b 1905, d 1955. m Falls
         V M Ziegler, b 1906, d Jul 10 1999, m Schollmeier
         E A Ziegler, b 1908, d Aug 21 2000, m Haeuser
         A E Ziegler, b 1909, d May 6 1987, m Schmidt
      Conrad Ziegler, b Feb 16 1875, PA, d Mar 8 1965, WI
      Anna Ziegler, b Apr 8 1877, PA, d Jun 30 1956, WI, m Philip Keller Jr
   John George Ziegler, b Mar 1831, Germany, d PA, m Annie Barbara
      Michael Ziegler, b c1865, PA
   Catherine Ziegler, b Feb 18 1834, Germany, d Nov 21 1905, WI, m George Arnold Sr
   Jacob F Ziegler Jr, b Dec 9 1836, Germany, d Aug 16 1924, WI, m Ellen Wallace
      Elisabeth Ziegler, b Sep 1862, m Thomas E Clark
      Cathrine Barbara Ziegler, b Feb 1866
      Annie Margareth Ziegler, b Aug 1875, d May 1929, m John P Manning
      Franklin F Ziegler, b Sep 30 1880, d Mar 17 1965, m1 Bertha E Wolfe, m2 Bernice Swanger


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« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2008, 05:00:20 PM »

I have a biography written by 2 brothers one born in 1850 the other born 1852 they both say that there great grandfather was a German. In the biography they talk about another Smith man in there community that is no relation to them one says that man is from Ireland the other says that man is from Scotland. the following is what I know.

I have tested to the 67 marker level. for those of you who match me close on my FTDNA personal page. I have looked over many many many census records and online family trees trying to find just one LIVING SMITH from my greatest grandfather to my grandfather to take a test to at least solidify the paper trails none have taken a test but one from Burwell Harvey might be willing to. So if anyone here knows of anyone from these Smith lines please try to incourage them through your knowledge that DNA testing is a good way to BACK UP all that hard work.


Jacob B. Smith Sr. B. c1772 in VA. m. Mary Elizabeth Shockey July 1796 Montgomery CO VA. They had 3 Sons. not in order of birth but in order of length of trail. they all lived in VA. WVA. in the early 1800s and Dispearsed from there.

1.Jacob B. Smith Jr. B. c1805 m. Jane Townsend
 2.Josiah Jacob Smith b. 1835 m. Elizabeth Johnson
 2.David K Smith
 2.Samuel Smith
 2.Hugh Henry Smith

1.Abraham Smith B. c1800 m. Amy Williamson
 2.Albert Smith B. 1832
 2.William Adam Smith B. 1836
 2.Jacob Smith B. 1839
  3.Tillman Smith B. 1873
  3.Erastus Smith B.1875
 2.Richard B. Smith B. 1843 M. Mary Ann Bailey
  3.Miles Smith B. 1871
   4.Henry Smith B.1889
  3.Emanuel B.1878
  3.Richard Smith B.1882
  3.Wiley Smith B.1888
  3.Vinson Smith B.1891
  3.Owen Smith B. 1892 m. Mary Helen Johnson
   4.Robert L. Smith
   4.Fred Smith
   4.James Smith
   4.William F. Smith
   4.Donald Smith
 2.John Smith B. 1847
 2.Abraham Smith B. 1852 m. Nancy Gross
  3.James B. Smith B.1877
  3.Alden Smith B. 1879
  3. John H. Smith 1884
 2.Erastus Smith B. 1856
 2.James Alfred Smith B.1858

1.Henry Smith B. 1802 m. Rebecca Picklesimer 3 March 1825 Montgomery CO. VA. (1850 Census WVA.)
 2.Jacob Marion Smith B. 1824 m.1845 Elizabeth Jane Smith B. 1824 (his cousin)  (1850 Census WVA.)
     (Jacob Marion was killed by Ira G. Copley in the house of Samuel Damron c1865)
   3.James Buchannan Smith B. 1856 m. Cindrillah Smith B. 1862 (his cousin)
       (James Buchannan Smith was killed by the police c1909)
     4.Harrison Smith B. 1889 m. 1911 Syrilda Leek
       5.Norman Louis Smith B. 1911
        6.Louis Norman Smith
        6.Frank Smith
         7.two sons
       5.William Elbert Smith had no children
       5.Charles Edward Smith might have had a son in Korea
       5.John Henry Clifton Smith might have son in WA. last name DOSHER???
       5.James Benjamin Smith B. 1929 WVA. M. 1948 Imogene Fay Maynard  B. 1933
        6.James Benjamin Smith II m. Janine Smith
         7.James Benjamin Smith III
         7. Robert Dale Smith
        6.Calvin Dale Smith
        6.Larry Dean Smith
        6.Tyson Douglas Smith B. 1955 WVA. m. 1976 Cheryl Lynn McBain
         7.Tyson Douglas Smith B. 1982 CA. I TOOK THE TEST
      4.Frank Smith B.1882
      4.Grover Cleveland Smith B.1885 married Eunice Leek
       5.Samuel Smith ran a barge up and down ohio river. Went blind
      4.James Smith B. 1892
      4.Mack Smith B. 1897
    3.William A. Smith B. 1846 m. abt 1864 Mary Helen Bradshaw B. 1847
     4.Byron Smith B. 1873
     4.Eldridge Smith B. 1884           
   3.Henry Jeffereson Smith B.1850
     4.James Harvey Smith B.1878
     4.Smith B.1883
  3.Burwell Harvey Smith B. 1852 married Luelle Jane Gue
     4.Clarence Smith B. 1887 married Mable Nora Cobb
      5.Vernon Smith B. 1909
      5.Carl Smith B. 1911
      5.Lavelle Smith B. 1913
  3.Jacob Francis Marion Smith B.1861 killed by his nephews
 2.Peter Smith B. 1828 m. more than once but last to. Nancy
   3.Lisander Smith
   3.George Smith (might be his grandson)
 2.Henry Smith B. 1832 m. Senia Smith
  3.Zachariah Fortuner might use name Smith
  3.Noah Smith
  3.Aaron Smith
 2.David Smith m. Ellen Workman sister of joe and alderson workman.
  He went to texas after civil war. she died in texas. after his wife died in TX he gave the land to his children and  took up a 160 acre homestead in OK.
 2.William Smith m. Melinda Brumfield
  3.General Grant Smith
  3.William Smith
  3.Phillip Smith m. Ada Davis
   4.Phillip Smith
   4.Russel Smith
   4.David Smith
   4.Paul Smith
   4.Kelly Smith
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« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2009, 01:21:57 AM »


Jacob Kircher b March 1837, Germany m. Matilda Montag b Germany c. 1840.  Came to USA c. 1848 d April 2, 1912 Cherokee, IA.  Jacob Kircher b March 1863, Wisconsin m. Amelia L. Hempel b 1871 WI.  Died June 1908, CA.  Harold J. Kircher b Aug 1896, Larchwood, IA., d.1987 San Diego, CA
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« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2010, 01:51:03 PM »

Pedigree for Leon Ralph Stirm FTDNA Kit 35287 lrstirm AT
Johannes Stirm, b 1 Jan 1598, Miedelsbach, Wurttemberg, d 8 Aug 1661, m Anna
Johannes "Hans" STIRM, b 17 Sep 1644, Miedelsbach, Wurttemberg, d 18 Dec 1692, m Maria SOMMER
Christoph STIRM, b 24 Feb 1679, Miedelsbach, Wurttemberg, d 24 May 1741 m Anna Elisabetha BENZ
Leonhard STIRM, b 28 Jan 1720, Miedelsbach, Wurttemberg, d 5 Nov 1758 m Maria Catharina KNAUSS
Jakob STIRM, b 4 Oct 1747, Miedelsbach, Wurttemberg, d 22 Feb 1800 m2 Anna Barbara KIENZLE
David STIRM, b 21 Jun 1798, Miedelsbach, Wurttemberg, d 3 Sep 1859 m Katharina SCHWADERER
Gottlob Friedrich STIRM, b 14 Jun 1834, Miedelsbach, Wurttemberg, d 20 Jun 1915, USA, m2 Christina AUSTERMILLER
John STIRM, b 17 Feb 1886, Okemos, MI, d 10 Apr 1937 m Elizabeth Henriette DREWS
Leonard Ralph Stirm
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« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2010, 12:49:55 AM »

Results of ancient DNA research on the 40 Bronze Age skeletons recovered from Lichtenstein cave in Lower Saxony have been trickling out for years. A 252-page doctoral dissertation which covers much of the work (keen shoes) may be downloaded here (Felix Schilz: Molekulargenetische Verwandtschaftsanalysen am prähistorischen Skelettkollektiv der Lichtensteinhöhle, Dissertation, Göttingen 2006).
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« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2010, 07:50:03 AM »

Genealogy (from Greek: γενεά, genea, "generation"; and λόγος, logos, "knowledge") is the study of families and the tracing of their lineages and history. Genealogists use oral traditions, historical records JN0-201, genetic analysis, and other records to obtain information about a family and to demonstrate kinship and pedigrees of its members. The results are often displayed in charts or written as narratives.

The pursuit of family history tends to be shaped by several motivations, including the desire to carve out a place for one's family in the larger historical picture, a sense of responsibility exin itil to preserve the past for future generations, and a sense of self-satisfaction in accurate storytelling.[1]

Some scholars differentiate between genealogy and family history, limiting genealogy to an account of kinship huawei certification, while using "family history" to denote the provision of additional details about lives and historical context.
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« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2010, 10:00:08 AM »

Pedigree of PeterRaymondNewcombe alias van Zomeren Warringa alias Kurtze; Kit 177722; [].

Christian Kurtze, b 1640-1658, DE; bur 21 Mar 1715, Zwolle, OV, NL; m 2 Sep 1690, Zwolle, OV, NL, Helena Berents.

Daniël Koerts alias van Someren, bap, 9 Dec 1703, Zwolle, OV, NL; bur 14 Jul 1762, Zwolle, OV, NL; m 16 May 1729, Zwolle, OV, NL, Christina Beumers.

Johannes van Someren, bap, 2 Oct 1738, Zwolle, OV, NL, bur 2 Jan 1801, Zwolle, OV, NL; m 19 May 1765, Zwolle, OV, NL, Asselina Velsing.

Daniël van Someren, bap, 25 May 1769, Zwolle, OV, NL; d 17 Mar 1845, Nieuweschans, GR, NL; m 22 Nov 1813, Nieuweschans, GR, NL, Gesina van Geurden.

Daniël van Zomeren, b 9 Dec 1818, Nieuweschans, GR, NL; d 10 Aug 1898, Bellingwolde, GR, NL; m 11 Jun 1846, Bellingwolde, GR, NL, Harmke Swart.

Harm van Zomeren, b 24 Oct 1862, Bellingwolde, GR, NL; d 2 Dec 1939, Wedde, GR, NL; m 17 May 1890, Bellingwolde, GR, NL, Trientje Houwen.

Henderik J. van Zomeren, b 31 Aug 1897, Wedde, GR, NL; d 7 Sep 1960, Winschoten, GR, NL; m 14 Nov 1917, Wedde, GR, NL, Hinderkje Korte.

Harm van Zomeren, b 1919, NL; d 1991, England.

Germany = DE
Netherlands = NL
Province of Groningen = GR
Province of Overijssel = OV

Christian Kurtze may be the son of Hermann Kurtze alias Curtze, who was a merchant / businessman and brother member of the Hanseatic League [Hansabruder]; b circa 1615 possibly at Bremen, Freie Hansestadt Bremen, DE; d 1668-1669 Nieder-Wildungen, Grafschaft Waldeck, DE; m c 1641 Nieder-Wildungen, Grafschaft Waldeck, DE, Anna Elisabeth Rebenstock who was burnt as a witch in 1656.

I need a yDNA test from a Hermann Curtze descendant to verify my lineage.
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