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Mark Cross
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« on: July 15, 2014, 06:42:07 PM »

I am confused, and hope someone can enlighten me.

My surname is Cross, and I have paper docs to trace this to the late 1700s.

I did the Y-67 and none of my matches have the surname Cross. I understand there may be a NPE to explain this. Can someone tell me more? My closest match is a genetic distance of 5 to 7 at 67 markers.

Our oral family history states that Cross used to be de la Croix. Legend says we originated in France, then left for Ireland, then came to America. This would have all happened before 1770, with the first birth in America of Cornelius Cross.

The Y-67 DNA test shows a LOT of Ireland; in fact, I am R-M269, a descendant of Niall of the Nine Hostages. So, Ireland seems to be somewhat confirmed. But, France, not so much, unless someone left Ireland and went to France, then later went back to Ireland. King Niall was in Ireland in the 5th Century AD.

However, it is rather disconcerting that no matches include Cross or even de la Croix.

Any ideas of explanation? My thoughts include either NPE or no one else in my line or distant line has been tested.

Just rather disappointed that no other Cross surnames match my DNA in a surname study...

Mark Cross
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Billie Hinze
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« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2017, 01:32:39 PM »

Fowler Y-111 (after 6 years) show no matching Fowler surnames.  Just O'Riley, Riley and many other Irish names.  It has been suggested that I move to another group (Riley, etc)  I cannot find any other provable Fowlers earlier than 1800. Possible adoption or simple name change.  I'm still trying.  Also have the Niall DNA R-M269 and 98% Irish.  Good luck!

Billie hinze
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