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« on: October 25, 2012, 03:04:59 AM »

Hi

I am new here, and my question is - Can one be designated a MtDna ( in my case H2 as per project team ) and have 90% of exact matches with H1, H3 and H7 haplotypes?

It seems silly to contact someone and say you are an exact match and I am H2 and they are H1
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« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2012, 05:58:35 AM »

Hi

I am new here, and my question is - Can one be designated a MtDna ( in my case H2 as per project team ) and have 90% of exact matches with H1, H3 and H7 haplotypes?

It seems silly to contact someone and say you are an exact match and I am H2 and they are H1

At which level have you been tested? Only HVRI and II? Haplogroup H, being the reference one, gets a few mutations. Anyway H2 has nothing to do with H1 or other H-s except that they descend all from H*. Send me your results, and I’ll be able to say you more.
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YDNA: R-Z2110


MtDNA: K1a1b1e

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« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2012, 07:00:53 AM »

There is also an H2b amongst the 105 Tuscans in the 1KGP (NA20585) where it is clear that the European H2b-s are the original and the most ancient:

AY738961(Iraq) Achilli Haplogroup [H2b] 13-APR-2007
T152C A263G 315.1C T319C A750G A4769G T8598C A8860G T13281C G13928A A15326G C16266T T16311C T16362C

EU597574(Brahui, Pakistan HGDP00007) Hartmann Haplogroup [H2b] 06-APR-2008
T152C T199C A263G 309.1C 315.1C A750G C3107N A4769G T8598C A8860G A15326G T16086C T16311C

HQ659667(German) FTDNA Haplogroup [H2b] 07-DEC-2010
T146C T152C A263G 309.1C 315.1C A750G A4769G A8101G T8598C A8860G A15326G C15386A T16311C

JQ702943 Behar Haplogroup [H2b] 07-APR-2012
T152C A263G 309.1C 315.1C A750G A4769G T6512C T8598C A8860G G12007A A15326G T16311C

JQ704530 Behar Haplogroup [H2b] 07-APR-2012
T152C A263G 309.1C 315.1C A750G A4769G T8277C A8577G T8598C A8860G A15326G T16311C

JQ705227 Behar Haplogroup [H2b] 07-APR-2012
T152C A263G 315.1C A750G A1555G A4769G T8598C A8860G A15326G T16311C

NA20585
T152C A263G A750G A4769G T8598C A8860G G11440A A15326G T16209C T16311C


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« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2012, 01:10:29 PM »

There is also an H2b amongst the 105 Tuscans in the 1KGP (NA20585) where it is clear that the European H2b-s are the original and the most ancient:

AY738961(Iraq) Achilli Haplogroup [H2b] 13-APR-2007
T152C A263G 315.1C T319C A750G A4769G T8598C A8860G T13281C G13928A A15326G C16266T T16311C T16362C

EU597574(Brahui, Pakistan HGDP00007) Hartmann Haplogroup [H2b] 06-APR-2008
T152C T199C A263G 309.1C 315.1C A750G C3107N A4769G T8598C A8860G A15326G T16086C T16311C

HQ659667(German) FTDNA Haplogroup [H2b] 07-DEC-2010
T146C T152C A263G 309.1C 315.1C A750G A4769G A8101G T8598C A8860G A15326G C15386A T16311C

JQ702943 Behar Haplogroup [H2b] 07-APR-2012
T152C A263G 309.1C 315.1C A750G A4769G T6512C T8598C A8860G G12007A A15326G T16311C

JQ704530 Behar Haplogroup [H2b] 07-APR-2012
T152C A263G 309.1C 315.1C A750G A4769G T8277C A8577G T8598C A8860G A15326G T16311C

JQ705227 Behar Haplogroup [H2b] 07-APR-2012
T152C A263G 315.1C A750G A1555G A4769G T8598C A8860G A15326G T16311C

NA20585
T152C A263G A750G A4769G T8598C A8860G G11440A A15326G T16209C T16311C




I did only the HVR1 and HVR2 test.

my only mutations are
16519C, 263G and 315.1c

My exact matches search includes only HVR1 and HVR2 combined and they are:
104 x h
93 x h1
10 x h10
3 x h13a
6 x h16
7 x h18
4 x h19
51 x h1e
5 x h2a
37 x h3
43 x h7

FTDNA says exact matches by people who have done FMS are also included because it matches something they show with something hidden from you.
Everyone says I am H2 ? including Jlick tests

Is there other data you need , like differences
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« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2012, 02:47:41 PM »

I did only the HVR1 and HVR2 test.

my only mutations are
16519C, 263G and 315.1c

My exact matches search includes only HVR1 and HVR2 combined and they are:
104 x h
93 x h1
10 x h10
3 x h13a
6 x h16
7 x h18
4 x h19
51 x h1e
5 x h2a
37 x h3
43 x h7

FTDNA says exact matches by people who have done FMS are also included because it matches something they show with something hidden from you.
Everyone says I am H2 ? including Jlick tests

Is there other data you need , like differences

Your data are demonstrating that with these HVRI/II your haplotype could be one of these H-s (or perhaps some other else). Unfortunately without an FGS (FMS) you won't be able to be certain. I don't understand why you should be H2a, which isn't the more diffused in Italy amongst these ones. Certainly you aren't H2b.
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YDNA: R-Z2110


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