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« on: August 30, 2011, 12:28:05 PM »

Two letters to Dienekes, I don’t know whether he will publish:

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If I remember well, Italy, above all the North Sicily Islands, were one of the main source of obsidian in the ancient world, and I wonder you wonder having found the highest variance of R-M269 of this last Busby’s paper in North-West Sicily. Probably it is another prejudice that what is in Sicily has come from East.

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I’d say Western Mediterranean (Italy-Spain). This is the weirdest haplotype from Busby’s: TP03 SIC-W. From YHRD we have also DYS385=12-12. From Busby we know that it is R-M269 (xS127).

2 16 13 28 23 10 11 13 12,13 10 12 15 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 >>
1 16 13 28 23 10 11 13 12,12 10 12 15 21 14 16 22 12 >>
1 16 13 28 23 10 11 13 12,12 10 12 15 21 14 17 22 13 >>
1 16 13 28 23 10 11 13 12,12 10 12 15 21 15 17 22 12 >>
1 16 13 28 23 10 11 13 12,12 10 12 15 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 >>

2 of 56 Sardinia, Italy [Sardinian] Eurasian - European - Western European Europe
2 of 1100 United States [Hispanic American] Admixed North America
1 of 180 Granada, Spain [Spanish] Eurasian - European - Western European Europe
1 of 543 Santander, Colombia [Mestizo] Admixed Latin America

17 13 28 23 10 11 13 10 12 15 10 >>
16 13 28 23 10 11 13 10 11 15 9 >>
16 13 28 23 10 11 13 10 12 14 4 >>
15 13 28 23 10 11 13 10 12 15 2 >>
16 14 29 23 10 11 13 10 12 15 2 >>
16 13 28 23 10 11 12 10 12 15 2 >>
16 12 27 23 10 11 13 10 12 15 1 >>
16 13 28 22 10 11 13 10 12 15 1 >>
16 13 27 23 10 11 13 10 12 15 0 >>

3 17 13 28 23 10 11 13 12,12 10 12 15 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 >>
2 17 13 28 23 10 11 13 11,12 10 12 15 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 >>
1 17 13 28 23 10 11 13 12,12 10 12 15 20 14 16 22 12 >>
1 17 13 28 23 10 11 13 12,12 10 12 15 21 13 17 23 11 >>
1 17 13 28 23 10 11 13 12,12 10 12 15 21 14 16 22 12 >>
1 17 13 28 23 10 11 13 12,12 10 12 15 21 14 17 21 11 >>
1 17 13 28 23 10 11 13 12,12 10 12 15 21 14 17 22 11 >>
2 of 1100 United States [Hispanic American] Admixed North America
2 of 56 Sardinia, Italy [Sardinian] Eurasian - European - Western European Europe
1 of 280 Liaoning, China [Xibe] Eurasian - Altaic Asia
1 of 543 Santander, Colombia [Mestizo] Admixed Latin America
1 of 212 Costa Rica [Mestizo] Admixed Latin America
1 of 327 Córdoba, Argentina [European] Eurasian - European Latin America
1 of 113 Belgium [Flemish] Eurasian - European - Western European Europe
1 of 1041 United States [European American] Eurasian - European North America

Of course probably it is an R1a and not R1b. Not good for Busby and company.

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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2011, 12:37:58 PM »

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Of course probably it is an R1a and not R1b. Not good for Busby and company.
I don't know on these haplotypes, but some of these academics are using Ysearch.org data.  That IS crazy unless you've directly verified it.
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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2011, 03:43:30 PM »

Athey's calculator gives this haplotype (16,13-28,23,10,11,13,15,10,12) like I2a1 and its huge presence in Sardinia and the Spanish world is in line with the I-M26. Anyway probably a mistake of Mr Busby.
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