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 on: March 24, 2017, 09:01:17 PM 
Started by Robert Kelly Dazet - Last post by Robert Kelly Dazet
Hi All Dietrich Project Members,

We all have genetic genealogy goals and reasons for taking the the Family Tree DNA, Y-DNA test.  My reason is to break down the "Brick Wall" keeping me from finding my Dietrich families origins in the Germanic States.  They seemed to just have magically appeared in Neuburg South Russia near Odessa on the Black Sea in 1807.  Others in my Dietrich family that had done research, assumed that they came from Württemberg, like many other colonists in South Russia.  For the colonies of South Russia there is a massive volume of information compiled and published by Dr. Karl Stumpp. And there are many Historical Societies such as the Germans from Russia Historical Society with all kinds of great info. There are two early census's from 1812 and 1816 that record  Johann Dietrich, wife Katharina and 3 children as living in Neuburg.  After 1833 there are church records archived in St. Petersburg Russia that are available on films at the FHL in Salt Lake City.
By 1833, the only member of the family that seems to still be alive in Neuburg is Son Jakob Dietrich, his wife Katharina Elisabetha Schneider and children.  The Lutheran Churches in the Grossleibental Districh of Odessa which included Neuburg kept pretty good records.  Each family, in addition to having births, baptisms, marriages,deaths and burials recorded, had a page/pages in a church family book.  This church family book number and page was also entered in a column in the main church records that were archived in St. Peterburg.  I could not find Jakob's death record.  After extensive research I checked each index for all Dietrichs in Nueburg and looked at the films for the Church Family Book number and page.  I found him recorded as Johann Friedrich Dieterich who died in 1842. This showed me that you always have to check every possible spelling of the Dietrich name, and be aware that each individual could have had up to as many as 5 given names!.  This was hims for sure because of the age at death, and the church family book and page number, plus there was only one Dietrich family in Neuburg at the time.  Now here was the important fact that was recorded.  His place of Birth, Kis-ker Hungary!!!.   
So I started to research the Ortsippen Books for Kishker/Kis-ker/Klein-ker, the Batschka, Hungary (now Serbia). I found  no record of Johann Dietrich and family.  However there were two not related Dietrich families from the Pfalz.  One was the Johann Nicolaus family from Hirschfeld, Pfalz and the other was the Johann Valentine family from Mariental, Pfalz.
There is a book written about the German emigrants who settled in Hungary Called the "Sammelwerk Donauaschaben" by Stader.  He lists a Johann Michael Dietrich and family living in the house next to his brother Johann Nicolaus.  Only the brother Johann Michael appeartly was never in Kischker. While registering in Vienna was sent to Landestreu, Galicia.  I found the records for them having lived there.   Stader says this Michael Dietrich from Hirschfeld, a sheppard and cowheard whent to Kischker with wife Margaretha and two sons Mathtias and Johann Burckhard, who was born in 1769, the correct act of my Johann This was not Nicolaus 's brother, it was his cousin. .  Of course there is no proof that was my family.  That is what I'm hoping my Y-DNA67 test will prove, or disprove.  If it is disproved, than who was Johann?  This is my Brick Wall.
I'm wondering what goals others here have and what your research stories are?
Now here is the possible killer.  Johann Nicolaus and Johann Michael of Hirschfeld, Hunsrück, Pfalz, were decendents of Hans Dietrich of Hattgenstein.  Dietrich Project Administrator, Brian Dietrick lists Hans Dietrich as his oldest known ancestor.  Brian is haplogroup R-M269 and we are haplogroup E-M35!!.  What do you think? 
Kelly, administrator of my first cousin, Bill Dietrich's YDNA67 test

 on: March 24, 2017, 07:02:11 PM 
Started by Steven Bird - Last post by Freebyrd
William Emmett Byrd b. 6-10-1852 Va or NC d. 11-11-1928, Wilkes Co. NC
          (siblings George,Solomon,Avery,Evin(sp?), Manley and James b. 1868 per 1880 census)
         m. 8-20-1875 Sarah Caroline Brown b. 8-22-1860 Wilkes NC d. 7-24-1916 Wilkes NC     
      ch.  John A Byrd b.6-22-1876 d. 3-2-1935
                  m. 11-12-1899 Martha Ellen Gregory b.1880
                  ch. Beatrice Byrd b. 1909
             Mary Elizabeth BYRD b.3-2-1877 Wilkes County NC d. 12-7-1954 Guilford County NC
                  m. William P Byrd b 9-9-1870 Wilkes Co NC d 11-25-1944 High Point Guilford NC

             Moore Macon  b. 3-8-1877 Hays NC. d. 2-28-1966 Danbury,NC.
                  m. Allie Ayers b.1887 d. 12-5-1987

           Lewis McClellan Byrd b.1881 NC d. 1913 NC
                  m. Clara Belle Chambers b. May-28-1888 Wilkes NC d. Oct-18-1967 Wilkes NC
                                                                             d/o Alfred Brown and Elizabeth Harrald
                        ch Luther McClellan Byrd b 8-13-1913 Hays NC d 1974 Northfork WV
                                  m Mable Isadora Hall b 1917 Hays NC d 2001 Northfork WV
                                ch Clyde Junior Byrd b Jul 13 1934 Pinnacle WV d Mcdowell  WV
                         m Madonna V Lawless b Oct 21 1935 Crystal WV d Feb 18 1989 P'ton WV                                                                                   
                                     d/o Sylvester Christopher Lawless and Nettie Lee Shelton
                 Clara m2. J. Marshall Harrold Jr. b. Feb-13-1877 d. Jun-6-1951, Hays,NC
                                    ch of Marshall Harrold and Clara Bell not listed

           Robert Harvey Byrd b.1884 d.1944  m. Ida Chambers b.1886

           Wadie Consadie Byrd b 8-10-1886 d 7-18-1929 m Doctor (given name)Frank Byrd
                                                                                            b. 12-11-1881 d. 4-13-1951
           James Walter Byrd b.5-29-1887 Wilkes Co NC
                  m. 4-26-1908 Bryan Surry NC Celia C (Sealie) Bartley b. 1889 Surry Co NC

           (Sarah) Fonzie Byrd b. 5-9-1895 d. 10-30-1983, N. Wilkesboro Wilkes Co. NC
                       m. Abraham Yale

 Well seems Wadie and her sister Mary married other Byrds. I traced both Doctor Frank Byrd and William Peyton Byrd back 3 generations or more so I guess they were already established here when my Byrds come along. My Byrds have migrated from Va to NC to WV and back to NC.
You may contact me at

 on: March 24, 2017, 07:51:18 AM 
Started by laila - Last post by laila
Hi, I am very new when we are talking about DNA, but I have to ask. My brothers haplogroup is R-M207
Subgroup R1b1b2a*-S128.

What is the name of them so I can find something about it, I have seen many different text and numbers but it´s complicated I think.

Best Regards

 on: March 23, 2017, 07:51:40 PM 
Started by daveculp - Last post by daveculp
I have a close match with kit 280248 in the Kolb surname project, and I would like to contact the kit's administrator to find out more about his ancestor Georg Martin Koob.  I don't see a way to do this, i.e. look up an administrator using the kit number.

BTW, this kit has no pedigree associated with it.

Any ideas?

Dave Culp

 on: March 23, 2017, 07:48:54 PM 
Started by JHixon - Last post by JHixon
I'm trying to find more information on Jane or Janet Robb (Bryson)
Born 1744 County Down, Northern Ireland
Died 26 Sept. 1813 County Down, Northern Ireland
Married William Bryson 1764, Ballysallagh, Down, Ireland
Could she be a sister of:
Alexander Robb m. Jenny Carr or James Robb m. Margaret Barr or Daniel Robb m. Eleanor Jane Bryson.
I'm sure she fits in here, I just can't get her connected.
Thank you.

 on: March 23, 2017, 02:01:00 AM 
Started by Arthur C. Barker - Last post by Arthur C. Barker
Two additional SNP Packs have been offered by Family Tree DNA at the usual temporary price of $99.00.  This brings the total to 90.  They are:


The first of these is a perfect plug-in for one of our Members who has tested and confirmed out to the phylogenetic equivalent of I2-L38, I2-L39.  The second one is another advanced SNP test that is not of any known use to any Project Member based upon their current level of testing.

Recently, the E-L674 SNP Pack had a huge price increase to $230.00.  We are told it was because of a special customization that it underwent.

Finally, the I1-M253 SNP Pack has seen at least a temporary price reduction to $99.00.  This is an important SNP Pack for our yDNA Haplogroup I1 Members because it is essentially the Backbone SNP Pack for them.  In other words, it's the starter SNP Pack.

 on: March 22, 2017, 05:37:07 PM 
Started by Mark Bunch - Last post by felipegodn
I think that Robert Bunch, maybe is the same  Sir Robert Henry Bunch, 1st Baronet Bunch, who was a scottish supporter of the Stuart family and was transported in 1742 to Maryland, he was my 6th great grandfather, I think that he settled later in Jamaica (mainly). He had a son George Henry Bunch, who married Elizabeth Woodside, she settled in Nassau, The Bahamas, and she died in Cartagena, Colombia in 1836, their son was Sir Robert Henry Bunch (1795-1856) who married first to Mary Fitch Bayley (parents of Robert Bayley Bunch, Charlotte Amelia Bayley Bunch and George Bunch) after this marriage he had a realtionship with Marcela Maldonado (parents of Higinio and Roberto Bunch) the he married in 1844 with Dolores Mutis Amaya (parents of Isabel Bunch Mutis).

I hope that you can help me to confirm this and giving me more data. Thank you very much.

Felipe González de Otoya

 on: March 22, 2017, 01:59:53 PM 
Started by Patrick Hickey - Last post by Patrick Hickey
I cannot help you here but a lot of us try the DNA route to try to find relatives. This is not always successful. You could try a FamilyFinder test from FamilyTreedna or a Y-DNA test from the same source. To help you, you would need to test a Hickey surname using the Y-DNA test and there is a Hickey Project on FamilyTreeDNA for that. The family finder test is not surname specific and could be used to find relatives regardless of surname. More information is available on their website. There are other DNA sites that do testing that you can find on the internet.

 on: March 22, 2017, 11:52:23 AM 
Started by web master - Last post by Karl Kiser
H. Jacob Trumbo (Mary) c1714-1783 d Brocks Gap area of Rockingham county, VA (ksquared77 at
Jacob Trumbo jr (Elizabeth Lair) 1754-1841 buried Brocks Gap, Rockingham county, VA
John M. Trumbo (Esther Davis) 1774-1818 d Pendleton county, WV?—just west over Shenandoah Mt. from Brocks Gap
Jacob Trumbo (Susannah L. Dyer) 1806-1893 buried near Brandywine, Pendleton county, WV
Morgan G. Trumbo (Mary Catherine Byrd) 1844-1893 buried Brandywine, Pendleton county, WV
Grover C. Trumbo (Sunshine B. Pope) 1884-1973 buried Brandywine, Pendleton county, WV Kit #455951

 on: March 22, 2017, 11:16:56 AM 
Started by web master - Last post by Karl Kiser
H. Jacob Trumbo (Mary) c1714-1783 d Brocks Gap area of Rockingham county, VA  (fortrumbo AT
Andrew Trumbo  (Margaret Harness) 1743-1827 d Clintonville, Bourbon county, Kentucky
George Trumbo (Susanna Coffman) c1769 - 1851 d Bath County, Kentucky
John L. Trumbo - (Sarah Manley) 1792 -1877 d Carter county, Kentucky
Thomas Isaac Trumbo (Celia Oxley) 1832 - 1914 d Rowan County, Kentucky
George W. Trumbo - (Laura B. Carter) 1869 - 1952 buried Los Angeles county, CA?
Bennie Trumbo - (Ethel Mae Walters) 1906 - 1996 buried San Marcos, San Diego county, CA  Kit # 399755

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