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Title: New paper on Armenian Y-DNA
Post by: seferhabahir on November 16, 2011, 05:45:46 PM
I can't access the whole paper, but the abstract is below.

Neolithic patrilineal signals indicate that the Armenian plateau was repopulated by agriculturalists

in European Journal of Human Genetics , (16 November 2011)

Kristian J Herrera, Robert K Lowery, Laura Hadden, Silvia Calderon, Carolina Chiou, Levon Yepiskoposyan, Maria Regueiro, Peter A Underhill and Rene J Herrera
Abstract

Armenia, situated between the Black and Caspian Seas, lies at the junction of Turkey, Iran, Georgia, Azerbaijan and former Mesopotamia. This geographic position made it a potential contact zone between Eastern and Western civilizations. In this investigation, we assess Y-chromosomal diversity in four geographically distinct populations that represent the extent of historical Armenia. We find a striking prominence of haplogroups previously implicated with the Agricultural Revolution in the Near East, including the J2a-M410-, R1b1b1*-L23-, G2a-P15- and J1-M267-derived lineages. Given that the Last Glacial Maximum event in the Armenian plateau occured a few millennia before the Neolithic era, we envision a scenario in which its repopulation was achieved mainly by the arrival of farmers from the Fertile Crescent temporally coincident with the initial inception of farming in Greece. However, we detect very restricted genetic affinities with Europe that suggest any later cultural diffusions from Armenia to Europe were not associated with substantial amounts of paternal gene flow, despite the presence of closely related Indo-European languages in both Armenia and Southeast Europe.


Title: Re: New paper on Armenian Y-DNA
Post by: MHammers on November 16, 2011, 07:28:23 PM
Dienekes has some updates.

They studied 4 regions.  R1b-L23 ranged from .16 to .36 in frequency and is the dominant hg and subclade except in the Sasun region where R2 and T are each slightly higher .  The Ararat valley had .05 M269.


Title: Re: New paper on Armenian Y-DNA
Post by: rms2 on November 16, 2011, 08:40:50 PM
Dienekes has some updates.

They studied 4 regions.  R1b-L23 ranged from .16 to .36 in frequency and is the dominant hg and subclade except in the Sasun region where R2 and T are each slightly higher .  The Ararat valley had .05 M269.

Interesting.

I have an Armenian brother-in-law (a nice guy). I wonder if he is R-L23.


Title: Re: New paper on Armenian Y-DNA
Post by: MHammers on November 17, 2011, 12:29:39 AM
Here is the supplemental info.

http://www.nature.com/ejhg/journal/vaop/ncurrent/suppinfo/ejhg2011192s1.html?url=/ejhg/journal/vaop/ncurrent/abs/ejhg2011192a.html

The median joining networks seem interesting for R1b M343, M269, and L23 compared among Armenian, Turkish, Caucasian, and European populations.  Is anyone able to make sense out of the connections and origin points of these networks?


Title: Re: New paper on Armenian Y-DNA
Post by: seferhabahir on November 17, 2011, 01:34:45 AM
Interesting.

I have an Armenian brother-in-law (a nice guy). I wonder if he is R-L23.

While I don't have known Armenian relatives, whenever I don't feel like being L21, I can transmogrify myself into a J2a-M410 since this is my maternal grandfather's haplogroup.


Title: Re: New paper on Armenian Y-DNA
Post by: Mike Walsh on November 17, 2011, 07:02:09 PM
Dienekes has some updates.

They studied 4 regions.  R1b-L23 ranged from .16 to .36 in frequency and is the dominant hg and subclade except in the Sasun region where R2 and T are each slightly higher .  The Ararat valley had .05 M269.

Interesting.

I have an Armenian brother-in-law (a nice guy). I wonder if he is R-L23.
I remember watching wrestling the Olympics and saw an Armenian wrestler.  I don't know if is height was similar, but I just remember thinking how much he looked like my brother. .... hopefully my brother is L21 though.


Title: Re: New paper on Armenian Y-DNA
Post by: rms2 on November 17, 2011, 08:34:22 PM
Dienekes has some updates.

They studied 4 regions.  R1b-L23 ranged from .16 to .36 in frequency and is the dominant hg and subclade except in the Sasun region where R2 and T are each slightly higher .  The Ararat valley had .05 M269.

Interesting.

I have an Armenian brother-in-law (a nice guy). I wonder if he is R-L23.
I remember watching wrestling the Olympics and saw an Armenian wrestler.  I don't if is height was similar, but I just remember thinking how much he looked like my brother. .... hopefully my brother is L21 though.

My brother-in-law looks like Joseph Stalin, only much bigger (Stalin was short). :-)