A Thank You

June 29, 2013

I guess everyone appreciates a compliment - and we at WorldFamilies are no different.  I'd like to share this one that came in today:


Dear Terry:

I just wanted to send you a HUGE thank you for the work that you do on the _______ Surname Project spreadsheets. 

They are SO fantastic!!!!  I love the way you do the groupings with the row above that has the common markers with "?"  for the markers where there are differences.  You set the bar for project spreadsheets!

I can't tell you how many times I've gone crazy reading Project spreadsheets (and I love spreadsheets and am very experienced with using them....), trying to figure out the differences between the data on people near mine (i.e., my cousins') without getting lost on the row.

Again, a big thank you for the time you take from your own family history research and family-dna research to give us the benefit of your knowledge and experience with genealogy DNA.



Comments - added June 30, 2013

Our presentation of results has evolved over 11 years of use.  First, we group men by general Haplogroup, then we identify "Lineages" - which are the men who share a recent common ancestor with each orther.  We present each Lineage separately, comparing against the apparent ancestral haplotype of the common ancestor of that Lineage.  Men without a match in the project are grouped within their haplogroup into a category that we call "Haplogroup ___ - No match yet in the project".  

Note: our Lineage matching assessments are the same as FTDNA - as long as there are only two men in the Lineage.  With three or more men in a Lineage, we compare against the apparent ancestral haplotype - which is also the Lineage Haplotype (shown in the first row of a Lineage).  This can cause us to group some men together who are not reported as a match at FTDNA becasue each has differing mutations from the Lineage Haplotype.  

We use a reference haplotype for each Haplogroup - which is the basis for all colorizing within that haplogroup's Lineages.  We report the info in each kit's "Most Distant Ancestor" field for our "Earliest Known Ancestor" field.  

Men who are only tested at 12 markers who are matching a Lineage go into a category called "Possible Lineage __".  Men with 25 or more markers who just miss the matching parameters also go into the "Possible Lineage" category.

You can see the spreadsheets that Lucy is talking about at project sites supported by WorldFamilies awhere our Results Tool is used..  Here are several examples:

Barton: http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/barton/results 

Anderson: http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/anderson/results

Butler: http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/butler/results

Myers: http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/myers/results



On Board


As a new 9 hours member, I must say, this is far above my head, the DNA thing, but at the same time, I recognize what DNA can do for genealogy and weeding out those mistakes and myths that have carried forward for so long a period of time.

Just wondering if you have a list of recommending readings to help bring me up to date as to what I can expect when I have DNA completed, and all the ins and outs of DNA.

I am an avid family researcher that is now in the process of learning and researching about all the family surnames within my lineage, at one time!

Thanks for any response.

Sgt Raymond L. Britt, USMC (OAMAAM)
Vietnam War Veteran
Cold War Veteran
Police Worker
Deputy Sheriff
Selected State Trooper


The reason i joined your site was this. A grave was found in Mason Co Ky for a man named R H Kilpatrick died 1822. I have been doing genealogy for my family, as far as i know we are not related. I ran across quite a few Kilpatricks in documents and such if anyone is interested. The people who own the property where this grave is, are searching for this family. They have preserved his grave and taking good care of it . I noticed R H Kilpatrick on your list of names so o i thought i would contact you in case someone is looking for him. The town where he is buried has no records for him ever being buried there. Sincerely Sheila Hill Miller

Aloha, Terry

Hello Terry,

My husband has the last name, Auvil, and we have been part of a fairly extensive network of Auvil genealogists. All Auvils and Auvilles in the U.S. are descended from a common ancestor, Johannes Abel. From time to time, we talk about DNA projects. The subject has come up again recently, and so I went looking around on FTDNA after remembering that my husband and I both did testing in 2007 which is how I've found you.

A question: I know that we are descended from an Abel ancestor, but I was not aware of some of the other surnames associated with the surname, Abel. From where were connections made to names like Abellera, Ablett, and Aviles? And is one of your intentions to find if all Abels are related genetically?

Most Auvil researchers are novices in the subject of DNA, so would love to pick your brain :) If you would like to connect with us, a great majority of us gather at the Auvil Family Genealogy Group, and we would love to see you there. [https://www.facebook.com/groups/auvil/].

Jolene (and Todd) Auvil

Asking Questions

My blog is not a particularly good place to ask questions.   Please direct specific questions to terry AT worldfamilies.net (replace " AT " with "@") and please post general info on the relevant surname board

The posting for Kilpatrick would be seen by more interested researchers on the Kirkpatrick-Kilpatrick Forum

The Abel project question could have been sent directly to me.  Surname projects typically include an assortment of similar names for two reasons.  Most importantly, names change over time and the various spellings could have changed over time to be the same current name.  Having the results in one project simplifies identifying geentic kin with a different, but similar spellings.  Second, folks with unusual spellings deserve a place to test and this is one way of providing it.  

Note: I do not have Abel ancestry (any spelling) to my knowledge.  I serve as Interim Admin of this project (and many others) until a family researcher steps forward



My maiden name was Abell. I have done extensive research on the Abell line, and I can tell you that at different times throughout history both Abel and Abell has been used. Since I come from a long line of male descent, It was easy to trace my line back to Robert Abell who came over on the Winthrop Fleet in 1630. There has been many books written and published about the Abell family in America. I too would be interested in possible DNA testing.

Munson family in Washington state/California, and B.C.

Hi everyone, I am a direct descendant of Sofie Helene Strand Munson, she was my great aunt. If anyone here has her on your DNA list, please contact me,

I am on Myhertitage, and FamilyTree DNA sites.


I have photos of both Sofia and Alfred (Fred) Munson) and will show on request.

Malodie Andrea Anderson


Terry, I know this is an old post but I wanted to thank you for the warm welcome to the Franco project. I am just getting started with genetic genealogy and after such a pleasant experience with FTDNA I am planning on having my Dad tested (one of only a handful of male Francos of Vittorio Veneto, Italy).

Looking forward to reading more and learning more about this process.