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Welcome to the

FRAME DNA PROJECT!

Page Updated: May 10, 2009

 

*FRAME HERALDRY*   *FRAME FAMILY TARTAN *

*SCOTS-ROOTS*

*Y-DNA: The Role of Surnames*    *Frame Surname Statistics*  *Eligible Surnames*
*Project Goals*    *Benefits of joining the Project* *Which Test?*
*Frame DNA Discussion Group*    *Frame Family Genealogy* *Frame-DNA Mailing List*
 *General Sponsorship Fund*      *Disclaimer*

FRAME SURNAME STATISTICS

The website  http://www.publicprofiler.org/worldnames/  currently holds data for approximately 300 million people in 26 countries in Europe, America, Asia and Oceania, representing a total population of one billion people in those countries. They report the frequency of the FRAME surname in those countries on the basis of 'Frequency per Million' (FPM):    

 

Country Frequency per Million (FPM) Country Frequency per Million (FPM)
New Zealand 88.18 Ireland 5.49
Australia 69.64 Netherlands 1.5
United Kingdom 69.03 Belgium 0.57
United States 40.02 Spain 0.52
Canada 27.97 France 0.49

ELIGIBLE SURNAMES

The following surnames are currently eligible for participation in the FRAME DNA PROJECT: 

DE FRAINE DE FRAMÉ DE FREIGNE DE FREYNE DU FRANE DU FRESNE DUFRANE DUFRENNE
DUFRESNE FRAEME FRAENA FRAHAM FRAHM FRAIM FRAIME FRAIN
FRAISN FRAISNE FRAM FRAME FRAMEN FRAMERY FRANCE FRANE
FRANEY FRAYM FRAYN FRAYNE FREAM FREAME FREAN FREEM
FREEME FREEN FREENEY FREHAM FREIGNE FREISNE FREM FREME
FREMEN FREMIN FRENEAU FRENEY FRENNE FRENNES FRESME FRESNAY
FRESNE FRESNEL FRESNILLO FRESNOY FREYGNE FREYME FREYNE FROAM
FROM FROME FROMM          

The FRAME DNA PROJECT is open to all of these listed families in all of their surname variations and from all locations.  

 If your surname is not included and you believe it should be, please contact the Project Administrator    


 PROJECT GOALS

The FRAME DNA PROJECT was established to: 

1.   Help researchers from related families work together to find their shared heritage.

*The private Framedna Discussion Group at Yahoo was established for this purpose.

2.   Identify whether or not all Frame families descend from a single ancient progenitor.

*See Discussion page

3.   Establish whether or not those with the variant surnames included in the Project share an ancient history with the family of FRAME.

*See Results and Discussion pages

4.   Use genetic testing to resolve the ambiguity surrounding the etymology of the FRAME surname.

*see Origins page

5.   Confirm kinship where it is suspected and documentation is unavailable.

 *See Discussion, Results and  Patriarch pages

 6.   Help to validate or eliminate suspect lines. 

*See Discussion page. This will become more effective as additional men participate in the Project to represent collateral branches. 


BENEFITS OF JOINING THE PROJECT 

Joining the Frame DNA Project will provide: 

  • Your Y-DNA profile (haplotype) which is very close and sometimes identical to your earliest known direct paternal line ancestor.
  • Your 'deep' ancestry (haplogroup), which identifies your paternal ancestor's prehistoric origins.
  • A sense of camaraderie, which is particularly strong for those who share a genetic ancestry.
  • Stimulation to family research and renewed sharing of information.
  • A wider sense of identity and relationship as you are given the opportunity to connect with your previously unknown cousins.
  • A chance to compare your known ancestry with new DNA cousins of the same surname, and also those with surname variants.
  • Your genetic matches with those who do not share your common surname.
  • A clearer understanding of your ancestry - both recent and ancient - particularly where records have been lost.
  • A cost saving when compared with having your DNA tested as an individual.

 

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WHICH TEST ?

 As the Frame DNA Project expanded, and because of the close relationship found between many of the participants, it became evident that the minimum entry level should be the 37-Marker Y-DNA test. However, most men are now starting with, or upgrading to, 67-markers. Over time, the extra markers should help define family lineages where paper trail has not been found:   

Postage for a DNA kit is $4 within the USA and $6 internationally 

TEST INDIVIDUAL PRICE  FRAME PROJECT PRICE
Y-DNA 37 Marker $259 $149
Y-DNA 67 Marker $349 $248

Prices for additional tests can be obtained by clicking Here 

FRAME DNA PROJECT Administrators will require new participants to submit a simple line of descent from their earliest known ancestor to themselves. Please email this information directly to the Admin. 
 
 

 

GENERAL SPONSORSHIP FUND

 

The FRAME DNA PROJECT has established a General Sponsorship Fund to assist with providing DNA tests for those whose DNA profile might provide critical knowledge to help advance Frame Family genealogical research. 
 
   
Sponsorship Fund Status: 
As of Feb 13, 2009 the balance of the Fund is : $39.00
 
Contributions are always welcome and we sincerely appreciate the generosity of  the following donors:
 

Janis Bailey $150.00   
J D Falk $100.00   
Anon $100.00 
Anon $200.00 
Mary Tuxhorn $  38.00
Anon $100.00

To Contribute to the FRAME DNA PROJECT General Sponsorship Fund click here 

Useful Links:

 1. Frame DNA Discussion Group at Yahoo 

Once Frame DNA Project members return their kit to Family Tree DNA for testing, they will be forwarded an invitation to join the private Frame DNA Discussion Group (framedna) at Yahoo. If not received, please contact the  framedna moderator.   


 

  2. Private FRAME FAMILY GENEALOGY Website at MyFamily.com
A private FRAME family general genealogy website has been established at MyFamily.com. It is for Frame family members and researchers to exchange information, post photographs, stories, family histories and trees etc. The FRAME FAMILY GENEALOGY website is username and password protected. If you would like to receive an invitation to join, please contact one of  the Co-Administrators: 
  

 Cheryl Frame Brown:  Br3Cher@aol.com   

 Julie Frame Falk: jfalk@bigpond.net.au 


 3. Frame-DNA Mailing List at Rootsweb

To subscribe to the list, please send an email to FRAME-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text.   


  Disclaimer 

Although test discounts are offered to FRAME DNA PROJECT members by FAMILY TREE DNA , it does not suggest a business partnership or any other relationship between the FRAME DNA PROJECT and FAMILY TREE DNA. All fees are payably only and directly to FAMILY TREE DNA. The FRAME DNA PROJECT is a non-profit project and administrators are volunteers dedicated to advancing FRAME family research in general. The FRAME DNA PROJECT will not in any way have control of DNA samples, nor will it have the responsibility for their care, handling or return to our project participants. The FRAME DNA PROJECT does not have a duty to act on behalf of a project participant in mediation of any disputes arising between a project participant and FAMILY TREE DNA. A match between project participants may suggest they share a common ancestor, however it will not identify the specific ancestor. There is no guarantee that every participant will match anyone in the FRAME DNA PROJECT or any other public database. By participating in the FRAME DNA PROJECT, the participant agrees to all conditions of the Project.  

 

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Y DNA: The Role of Surnames

From: Facts & Genes. Copyright (c) 2007 Family Tree DNA.  All rights reserved.

http://www.familytreeDNA.com/facts_genes.aspx

 The surname is an important component of analyzing Y DNA results, and sets the outer boundary for the time frame of a match.

Surnames were adopted in different countries at different times. For a long time, people were just known by their first name. As society became more complex, a system was needed to distinguish one person reliably and unambiguously from the next person.

A surname is typically a hereditary name borne by members of a single family and handed down from father to son. Thus, surnames contrast with given names, which identify individuals within the same family. It is characteristic of surnames that all members of a particular family normally have the same surname.

A surname therefore follows with the Y DNA result, which makes the testing of Y DNA a very powerful tool.

On the whole, the richer and more powerful classes tended to acquire surnames earlier than the working classes and the poor, while surnames were quicker to catch on in urban areas than in more sparsely populated rural areas.

Surnames were adopted in different areas at different times. In many parts of central and western Europe, hereditary surnames began to become fixed from the 12th century forward. The bulk of European surnames in countries such as England or France were formed in the 13th and 14th centuries. In some places, the process started earlier, and in some places the process continued into the 19th century. Overall, the norm is that in the 11th century people did not have surnames, and by the 15th century they did.

The process of adopting a surname was spread over time, and these surnames continued to evolve until the 1900's when spelling was standardized.

Surname variants occurred during the evolution of the surname. There was no guide to the spellings of names, and those who recorded events, such as the clergy and registrars, attempted to reproduce phonetically the sounds they heard. The great majority of the population were illiterate and had no notion that any one spelling of their name was more 'correct' than any other.

Prior to the time surnames were adopted, men with the same Y DNA result were spread out over a geographic area due to migrations. In addition, invasions and wars often dispersed a Y DNA result significantly.

Many men had the same Y DNA result when surnames were adopted. It is currently impossible to predict how many men had the same Y chromosome DNA result at this time. Some Y DNA results were dying out, and others were abundant. Therefore, men with the same Y chromosome DNA result adopted different surnames. If there was a large population of the Y DNA result, such as with the haplogroup R1b, many different surnames would have been adopted for this Y DNA result.

As the database of Y DNA results at Family Tree DNA grows, almost everyone will eventually have Y DNA matches with other surnames. The primary reason for these matches is that multiple men with the same Y DNA result adopted different surnames during the time period when surnames were adopted. These men could have been in the same village, or in the same county, or perhaps migration had taken them to different countries.

In addition, two men with different surnames may have a matching Y DNA result due to convergence. Convergence is where you start with two different Y DNA results, in the past, and the results mutate over time, to where they match or are a close match today. The higher the population of a Y DNA result, the more opportunity there is for convergence to occur. Since Haplogroup R1b is the largest population group in Europe, matches with other surnames are very common. These matches are due to the large population of this Haplogroup that existed when surnames were adopted. Many different surnames were adopted, and convergence has occurred over time.

If we go back far enough in time, we are all related. The surname is used to establish a boundary for determining whether two people are related. If you match some one with a different surname, you are most likely related prior to the adoption of surnames.

In some cases, you could be related after the adoption of surnames, due to one of the following events occurring:

1. informal adoption, such as a widow remarries, and the children take the new surname
2. infidelity
3. illegitimate male child who takes the mother's surname
4. adoption of a new surname, such as by preference or for inheritance
5. a pregnant woman marries a man with a different surname than the child she is carrying

Even though these events have occurred in the past, they were not the norm.

Pursuing a match with another surname should not be considered until both participants upgrade to 67 Markers to determine if the match still holds.

At this point, if the match still holds at 67 markers, a decision can be made as to whether to pursue the match with another surname. To avoid wasting time, there should be some evidence that one of the events above occurred. In making this decision, the place to start is to evaluate the evidence. Were the ancestors in the same location, at the same time? Was there a marriage by a widow who had children? Is there a use of alias in any records? Is there any evidence to support a match with another surname?

In most cases, there isn't any evidence to support pursuing the match.

A Surname Project is a very valuable tool for family history research. The surname establishes the time period for determining if two people are related. Surname Projects can provide tremendous benefit for those who are researching their family history. DNA testing has a wide range of applications, from additional information to use in conjunction with the paper records for interpretation, to clues to find the ancestral homeland.

In addition, as a long term goal, a Surname Project can determine the number of points of origin of the surname. The Surname Project would combine DNA results with the techniques used to research surnames, and identify the ancestral location(s) or area(s) where the surname was adopted.

As you research your family tree, eventually you have to stop, because the written records end, or are sporadic. This could be the result of the destruction of records, such as due to a court house fire. Or, this could be the result of reaching the time period prior to consistent written records. For example, the time period before the adoption of Parish registers. Often your family tree will stop before you reach the start of Parish registers, because there is insufficient documentation to make a connection.

When your family tree ends, often there is still a long period of time between then and the adoption of surnames. For example, if your tree ends in the late 1700's due to insufficient documentation, there is still 400 to 500 years between then and the adoption of surnames, depending on your ancestral country.

DNA testing can fill this 500 year gap. Imagine a situation years from now, where every family tree with your surname has tested. The data would then be available to determine whether your surname had a single or multiple points of origin. Combining this information with surname mapping, frequency distribution studies, and research in Medieval records would most likely enable the Surname Project to identify a geographic area as the ancestral homeland.

Our surname is a very important part of us, and DNA testing tells us about this surname. For example, did one man take on the surname, and all the descendents today are related, except for a few trees which are descendents of an informal adoption, and descendents of an illegitimate birth?

With DNA testing, we might also discover previously unknown variants. This could be very helpful for research, especially when records can't be found, and later it is discovered that the records are actually there, but recorded with a previously unknown variant.

Surname dictionaries have been published and identify the origin for many surnames. The authors of these books used the tools available at the time. Never before have these experts or authors had the powerful tool of DNA testing available. There are many discoveries to be made with DNA testing. Most likely, DNA testing will prove that some long held beliefs about the origins of various surnames are incorrect.

By participating in a Y DNA Project, or sponsoring a participant if you are female, you are making a significant contribution to the knowledge about your surname. Even when your tree ends, you can still discover information about your origin.

From:

 Facts & Genes

 Copyright (c) 2007 Family Tree DNA.  All rights reserved.

http://www.familytreeDNA.com/facts_genes.aspx

 

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