Surname DNA Projects

 Joining a Surname Project

What is a Surname DNA project?
Since y-DNA correlates so closely with the surname (both y-DNA and surnames are passed down from father to son), a surname DNA project is a good place to look for genetic relatives. By using the results of DNA testing, along with other information and family pedigrees, participants can identify those with whom they share a common ancestor.  

Why join a Surname DNA project?
A surname DNA project can help you confirm relationships identified by traditional genealogy, to locate related families lost through the passage of time, and to identify the origin of the family’s early ancestors. The aim for many participants is to identify a participant's) who "
matches" their test results, and who can help them find the paper trail that leads further back up the family tree.
By participating in the project, you will have a website to display your test results and your pedigree.  In addition, you will be alerted each time a new pedigree or test result is posted on the website.  You will be able to see lineages develop and will have help in recruiting key members to join the project.

Large surname projects may work to catalog all known families carrying the surname. As many surnames have evolved over time, a common approach is to open a surname project to all known spellings. In addition, tests cost less when you order them through a surname project 

I haven't been tested yet. How do I join the project?

If you have not been tested, order your test through the FTDNA project (this will automatically make you a member of the project).

How do I find an existing surname project? Does every family have a project?
No, many families have not started a Surname DNA Project, although there are thousands who have. We provide World Families Network to assist those who wish to start new Surname DNA Projects.

 


  • 1.  Use the "Search" box above.

    2. You can search through our alphabetic listing. (Click on "Surname Projects" in the banner menu). Then, you can click on the first letter of the surname and scroll down as you search for your surname.

    3. If you don't find a project at our site, you can search at FTDNA's site, where they also provide a Soundex feature. You can select "sounds like" when you do your search and see what similar surnames have their own project.

    4. If all else fails, contact us and request that we set up a surname project for your use.

    What do I do if there is no surname project for my surname of interest?

    One of the things that we do is to help projects get going and help admins learn their way.  We'll be glad to extend that service to you and your project, The site is free to you and your project in all cases.  You and the project participants will still have exactly the same relationship with FTDNA if you had set up the project on your own and will pay exactly the same as you would pay if you were totally unconnected to us.  If, at any time in the future, you wish to disassociate with us - you can do that with one email -  no questions asked (except "why" so we'll know a reason)   We expect you to honor the requirements that we lay out in the email that that brings your edit access code.

    There are three ways we can do this.  In each scenario, we will set up with a project website at WorldFamilies.net and surname Forums at WFNForum.net - which are interlinked with the "Project ordering page" at FTDNA.

    Option 1: You can become one of the WorldFamilies.net projects, which brings our direct support to your project (sending welcome messages, posting pedigrees at the Patriarch page, posting results, etc. - until you are ready to take them over).

    Option 2: You are completely independent as project administrator and have the use of the free project sites that we furnish.

    Option 3: We set up a surname project for your surname, if no project already exists at FTDNA.

    Let us know which option you want.  And - feel free to verify that our service is legitimate and endorsed by FTDNA - they actually initiated the concept for us. 

    Click here for more information about requesting a Project and/or a Project website at World Families.

    Click here to send us an email requesting a project..  

    Once I've found a project, how do I join?

    •  If you have not been tested, order your test through the project (this will automatically make you a member of the project).
    •  If you have already been tested at FTDNA, but are not yet a member of the project, join through your personal page at FTDNA:
    • If you were part of the National Genographic Project, you can transfer yourself, your results and your retained sample to Family Tree DNA.
    •  If you were tested at one of the companies whose results we accept for posting, we will post your results if you submit them in the table we provide. We require that you provide your earliest known ancestor and pedigree. Please note that you will not have the ability to use the FTDNA website and database unless you retest at FTDNA.

     Can I join more than one surname project?

     

    Yes, FTDNA allows each participant to belong to several projects: 

    • As many surname projects as you like
    • geographic project
    • y-haplogroup project (if you have been yDNA tested)
    • mt-haplogroup (if you have been mtDNA tested)

      I've already been tested at FTDNA. How do I join the project?

      • In your FTDNA personal page is a link the left column named "Join Projects".  Click on that link.  
      • Find the name of the project on the next page.  Click on the name of project you wish to join.  The next page will tell you about the project and provide a link to to its website.  Click on the "JOIN" button on the lower right.
      • The name of the project you have joined will appear in the left column of your personal page under "My Project Groups".  (FTDNA allows you to join as many surname projects, geographic projects, and haplogroup projects as you feel are appropriate.  All of the projects you have joined will appear in the left column of your personal page.)
      • The project administrator wil be notified that you have joined the group, and your test results will be available for posting on the project's results page. 
      • We hope that you'll also post your family pedigree at the projects Pedigree Forum on the project's World Families website, and that you will encourage the other researchers that you work with to join in, both in posting their pedigrees and in getting the yDNA of their ancestral family on record in the project. (For information on posting your pedigree, please read  Post a Pedigree.)
      • Note: Or, if all else fails, you can ask FTDNA to transfer you into the project - ph (713) 868-1438 or email helpdesk@familytreedna.com

    • Once you have been transferred into FamilyTreeDNA, you will be given access to a "personal page". 
      • In your FTDNA personal page is a link the left column named "Join Projects".  Click on that link.  
      • Find the name of the project on the next page.  Click on the name of project you wish to join.  The next page will tell you about the project and provide a link to to its website.  Click on the "JOIN" button on the lower right.
      • The name of the project you have joined will appear in the left column of your personal page under "My Project Groups".  (FTDNA allows you to join 2 surname projects, 1 geographic project, and 1 haplogroup project.  All of the projects you have joined will appear in the left column of your personal page.)
      • The project administrator will be notified that you have joined the group, and your test results will be available for posting on the project's results page. 
      • We hope that you'll also post your family pedigree at the projects Pedigree Forum on the project's World Families website, and that you will encourage the other researchers that you work with to join in, both in posting their pedigrees and in getting the yDNA of their ancestral family on record in the project. (For information on posting your pedigree, please read Post a Pedigree.)
      • Note: Or, if all else fails, you can ask FTDNA to transfer you into the project - ph (713) 868-1438 or email info@familytreedna.com

    I was tested at another company. Can I join your project? 

    • Yes, if you were tested at one of the companies whose results we accept for posting. We will post your results on the project's Results Page if you submit them in the table we provide upon request.  Different testing companies lists markers in a different order and assign different numbers, and do not test all the same markers, which is why we ask you to place your results in the spaces provided and adjust the numbers as instructed, so that they will be correct for posting on the Results page.
      We require that you provide your earliest known ancestor and pedigree.
      Please click here to request a table for results from another company. 
    • We hope that you'll also post your family pedigree at the projects Pedigree Forum on the project's World Families website, and that you will encourage the other researchers that you work with to join in, both in posting their pedigrees and in getting the yDNA of their ancestral family on record in the project. (For information on posting your pedigree, please read Post a Pedigree.)
    • Family Tree DNA, who provides the testing for this project, only puts test results in its data base for those who are tested at FTDNA, so you will not have access to the information at FTDNA.. This is part of the service they provide to their customers. Here are a couple of other things you can do:

      • You can upload your results to Ysearch, the public database that FTDNA maintains for anyone who tests at any company, so that you can compare results against others who have uploaded results. www.ysearch.org
      • You can re-test at FTDNA for a reduced price they offer people who have tested elsewhere, so that you will get all the benefits of testing at FTDNA. The cost is $119 for 37 markers. Here is a page that explains how to retest at FTDNA: http://www.worldfamilies.net/retest
    • Family Tree DNA now allows those who have previously tested at another company to retest at FTDNA at a reduced price.  This offer gives you many benefits:
      • Full privileges in your Surname Project
      • Only way to be included in FTDNA’s internal database
      • Facilitates membership in multiple projects (you have direct comparison in each with no additional testing and at no extra charge.)
      • Guaranteed retention of your test sample for 25 years
      • Other Important Features--see our full explanation of retesting at FTDNA here.
      • FTDNA has put their special order page back up. http://www.familytreedna.com/PDF/PROMO_GAP.pdf
      • Pricing for testing at FTDNA (if you have already been tested at some other commercial lab):
        • 12 markers $59     (savings $40)
          25 markers $89     (savings $40 + $20 = $60)
          37 markers $119   (savings $40 + $20 + $20 = $80 over incremental upgrades - or $70 over initial 37 marker order)
          note: Add $2 for domestic s/h and $4 for international s/h
    • To find out more about re-testing at FTDNA, contact your project administrator or email FTDNA at helpdesk@familytreedna.com 

    I am part of the National Geographic Genographic Project (NGGP). How do I join this project?

    • You can transfer yourself, your results and your retained sample to Family Tree DNA.
    • Go to your National Geographic Genographic Project page.
      • Log in using your kit number.
      • On the next page, click on "I acknowledge".
      • On the next page, scroll all the way down to the bottom.  You will see "learn more" in small blue letters near the bottom of the page.  Click on it.
      • Check "I agree".
      • Fill out the FTDNA form "Adding Your Record to FTDNA" and click "Continue"
      • You should be able to finish it from there. 

     
    How do I join an mtDNA project?

    • In your FTDNA personal page is a link the left column named "Join Projects".  Click on that link. 
    • Find the name of the project on the next page.  Click on the name of project you wish to join under the heading "MT Haplogroup Projects".  The next page will tell you about the project and provide a link to to its website.  Click on the "JOIN" button on the lower right.
    • The name of the project you have joined will appear in the left column of your personal page under "My Project Groups".  (FTDNA allows you to join 2 surname projects, 1 geographic project, and 1 haplogroup project.  All of the projects you have joined will appear in the left column of your personal page.)
    • The project administrator wil be notified that you have joined the group, and your test results will be available for posting on the project's results page.
    • Note: you cannot join a mt -Haplogroup project if you have not done a mtDNA test.)

      How do I join the genographic (National Geographic Genographic) project?

    • Go to your FTDNA Personal page (go to Family Tree DNA and then enter your kit number and password to log in to see your personal page)
    • Look in the left column under "Tools for  "Genographic Project
    • Click "I agree" and then "Continue"
    • Confirm your personal details and submit your request by clicking "continue" 

      How do I join a Y-Haplogroup project? 

    • In your FTDNA personal page is a link the left column named "Join Projects".  Click on that link. 
    • Find the name of the project on the next page under the heading "Y Haplogroup Projects".  Click on the name of project you wish to join.  The next page will tell you about the project and provide a link to to its website.  Click on the "JOIN" button on the lower right.
    • The name of the project you have joined will appear in the left column of your personal page under "My Project Groups".  (FTDNA allows you to join 2 surname projects, 1 geographic project, and 1 haplogroup project.  All of the projects you have joined will appear in the left column of your personal page.)
    • The project administrator wil be notified that you have joined the group, and your test results will be available for posting on the project's results page.
    • (Note: you cannot join a Y-Haplogroup project if you have not done a yDNA test.)

      How do I join a Geographic project? 
      How do I start a new project?
      After you make sure there is no surname project that includes your surname in it, we will set up the project for you through World Families Network and allow you to be the Co-Admin or simply be a participant. Click here to request us to set up your Surname Project.   If you already have a project and need a website, we can set up a website for your project:  Request a Project Site.

      What do I need to know to set up a Surname DNA project?
      Most Surname DNA Project coordinators didn’t know a lot about DNA testing when they started. They had an interest in furthering their research and were willing to start their project and learn as they went. We have provided advice on how to start and run a project at our World Families Network site. To learn more, see our Project Administrator Information page.

      How do I add my existing project to your World Families Network listing?
      Simply go to our Request a Project Site page and send us an email.

      Why should I list my project through your website?
      You will list your project at WFN because you want to maximize the possibility of a potential participant finding your project. By listing at World Families Network, you help assure that nearly all Surname Projects are included in a single listing. (If your project is listed with Family Tree DNA, we will automatically include it in our list)

      How will other people find my project?
      We maintain The World's most complete Surname DNA Project listing. This includes all projects that are listed with Family Tree DNA plus any projects that have individually registered with World Families Network. We believe that this represents over 90% of all surname projects worldwide. Anyone searching at the testing company that handles your project will also find your project.

      What kind of people should I recruit?
      You need a male participant who either carries the Surname or one who is believed to be paternally descended from a man who carried the surname. 
      When you are establishing your project, the most important participants will be those who can trace their ancestry. Researchers who are enthusiastic about researching your surname through DNA testing can be very helpful in recruiting and in convincing the doubters of the value of DNA testing.

      How do I find these people?
      Use every possible method of contact that you can imagine. Typically, some are found through word of mouth, some are found through Surname Forums and Discussion Pages, some are found through Family History societies and some are found through luck. If you know old-timers who have a network of fellow researchers who still communicate by snail mail and phone, you have a potential source into many families in your surname, as these researchers usually keep a list of contacts who are a part of their line and a list of those who are not a part of their line. The more different channels of communication that you can open to find and recruit participants, the more likely you are to be successful in finding them.

      How do I convince them to get tested?
      This can be a challenge. Some folks are willing to participate, but can’t (or won’t pay the cost). In these cases, you can encourage the family to collectively pool the cost of the test for one representative. These situations are ones where the 12 marker tests are particularly useful, as $99 is easier to raise than $148, $189, or $269.
      Some folks don’t understand the value of the testing. Hopefully, you can learn enough from these FAQs and other information to persuade them. Some coordinators have shared their challenges on the Genealogy-DNA-L list and gotten help from experienced coordinators.
      Some folks fear that the test will somehow invade or compromise their privacy. Again, hopefully, you can learn enough from these FAQs and other information to persuade them.
      If you aren’t able to convince someone to participate, don’t give up. (and don’t offend them, as they could become an ally later) One possibility is that they might refer you to another family member who is more receptive. You may also find a way to answer their concerns and discuss with them again another time.
      Some projects create “sponsorships” to help pay the cost of testing in specific situations.

      How many markers should we use?

    • In your FTDNA personal page is a link the left column named "Join Projects".  Click on that link.  
    • Find the name of the project on the next page.  Click on the name of project you wish to join under the heading that includes "Geographical Projects".  The next page will tell you about the project and provide a link to to its website.  Click on the "JOIN" button on the lower right.
    • The name of the project you have joined will appear in the left column of your personal page under "My Project Groups".  (FTDNA allows you to join as many surname projects,  geographic projects, and haplogroup projects as are appropriate for your test results.  All of the projects you have joined will appear in the left column of your personal page.)
    • The project administrator wil be notified that you have joined the group, and your test results will be available for posting on the project's results page. 

    Use as many markers as your participants can afford. Generally, we recommend starting with at least 25 markers as a trade-off between cost and information. (If cost is a major issue, screening tests can be done with 12 marker tests.)

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    What about alternate spellings of my name?
    Most Surname Projects are very open to participants with alternate spellings. You should search for variant spellings of your surname if you don’t find a Surname Project for your surname.