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Wayne Kauffman
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« on: February 14, 2011, 09:29:12 AM »

Starting a new thread to recognize the haplogroup that has been assigned based upon the 23andMe  L277+ results.

STR results are now available for another L277+ individual. See M3FMX in y-Search.
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« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2011, 01:14:16 PM »

This haplotype is different from the others known so far. They could be R-L277+ also Marcogliese (Italy) Ysearch ID: H27KW, Zinnecker (Germany) Ysearch ID: XM627 and Armstrong (USA) Ysearch ID: J82WH.
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« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2011, 08:34:26 PM »

It appears the following individuals have joined FTDNA's WTY effort. The odds are good for some new SNPs to be identified under M269.

R-M269    ?   Europe   Germany
R-M269    G6RYG   Europe   Guernsey
R-M269*   5YAUS   Asia   Iran
R-L23   CJY7M   Europe   
R-L23   KM5KD   Europe   United Kingdom
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« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2011, 08:47:54 PM »

I see that Finchserver has defined L479,  L482, and L483 as derived near R-L23.  Wonder if any of them will be useful for addressing the L277+ testing issue.....
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« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2011, 06:50:01 PM »

3 more SNPs are now listed as being derived near L23.  They include L500, L502, and L506.   So with  6 new SNPs in the area of L23 and several WTY participants we should see some new branches and maybe something that can serve as a surrogate for L277.
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« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2011, 09:39:15 PM »

FTDNA has added SNPs L405 and L277 to the advanced order list!!

 It is time to encourage R1b-L23* individuals to test for these downstream SNPs and refine the populations and distributions associated with them.
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« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2011, 01:14:48 PM »

The ht35 project now has 3 geographically diverse L405+ SNP results listed .  

edit; Bonk!   We are looking for the L405- results under L23.
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« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2011, 01:52:47 AM »

The mutation of L405 is a back mutation, then there is not when is + but when it is - (at least for R-L23+).
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