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« on: January 27, 2011, 12:13:16 PM »

I wonder is this John's birth in Glastry with his brother & sister?

MIC/IP111 Reel 1   1044   John   Robert Palmer      Ballyeasboro   08.06.1793   

MIC/IP111 Reel 1   1082   Rachel   Robert Palmer      Ballyeasboro   31.03.1795
MIC/IP111 Reel 1   1184   Adam   Robert Palmer      Ballyeasboro   16.04.1798

Glastry Presbyterian Graveyard, County Down:
PALMER.
Erected by Nancy Palmer in memory of her husband John Palmer of Portavogie who departed this life 10th November 1850 aged 57 years.  Born 1793
Also the above named Nancy Palmer who departed this life on the 10th April 1871 aged 64 years.   Born 1807
Also her grandson James Palmer, **died 1st Feb. 1869 aged 5 years. Born 29/09/1864
Her son Adam Palmer died 27th Oct. 1905 aged 72 years. Born 1833 ***

MIC/IP111 Reel 1   2702   Nancy   John Palmer   Nancy McKibbin   Portavogie   04.11.1840   12.11.1840
MIC/IP111 Reel 1   2851   Sarah   John Palmer   Nancy McKibbin   Portavogie   26.03.1843   11.04.1843
MIC/IP111 Reel 1   3018   John   John Palmer   Nancy McKibbin   Portavogie   01.04.1846   15.04.1846

ADAM SON OF JOHN
Adam Palmer, full age, bachelor, farmer, of Portavogie (father: John Palmer, farmer) to Agnes Gordon, full age, spinster, of Annalong, County Down (father: James Gordon, sea captain) in Annalong Meetinghouse on Jan.9, 1861.
 
GLASTRY PRESBYTERIAN CH. BIRTHS

MIC/IP111 Reel 1   3719   Elizabeth   Adam    K……….. Gordon   Portavogie   11.10.1862
MIC/IP111 Reel 1   3657   John   Adam Palmer   Nancy Gordon   Portavogie   08.01.1861   10.01.1861
MIC/IP111 Reel 1   3808   James **   Adam Palmer   Nancy Gordon      29.09.1864   29.09.1864
MIC/IP111 Reel 1   3977   Robert   Adam Palmer   Nancy Gordon   Portavogie   14.01.1868   21.01.1868
MIC/IP111 Reel 1   4409   Nancy   Adam Palmer   Nancy Gordon   Portavogie   16.01.1874   04.02.1874

1901 CENSUS

Residents of a house 129 in Portavogue (Ballyhalbert, Down)

Palmer   Nancy   26   Female   Daughter   Presbyterian   Co Down   Farmer's Daughter   Can read and write      Not Married   
Palmer   ADAM   68   Male   Head of Family   Presbyterian   Co Down   Farmer   Can read and write   English   Married   
Palmer   John   40   Male   Son   Presbyterian   Co Down   Farmer's Son   Can read and write      Not Married   Imbecile
Palmer   Nancy nee Gordon    65   Female   Wife   Presbyterian   Co Down      Can read and write      Married   


1911 census
Residents of a house 33 in Portavogie (Ballyhalbert, Down)

11.07.1904   James Beatty Maxwell Full   Bachelor Bran…….   Belfast  FATHER John Maxwell Mill Worker

Nancy Palmer   Full Spinster Portavogie   Adam Palmer Farmer

WITNESSES  Thomas Taylor Agnes Taylor

Maxwell   Agnes   37   Female   Head of Family   Presbyterian   Portavogie, Co Down      Read and write      Married      7   2   2
Maxwell   Annie   6   Female   Daughter   Presbyterian   Portavogie, Co Down   Scholar   Cannot read      Single   
Maxwell   Martha   1   Female   Daughter   Presbyterian   Portavogie, Co Down      Cannot read      Single   
Palmer   Nancy nee Gordon   78   Female   Mother   Presbyterian   Portavogie, Co Down      Read and write      Widow   
Mahaffy   William   27   Male   Servant   Church of Ireland   Portavogie, Co Down   Farmer Servant   Read and write      Single   

WILL OF ADAM PALMER
Title :      Date of Death :   27 October 1905 ***
Surname :   Palmer   Date of Grant :   26 February 1906
Forename :   Adam   Effects :   Effects £243 17s. 6d.
Registry :   Belfast   

Full Abstract :
Administration (with the Will) of the personal estate of Adam Palmer late of Portavogie County Down Farmer who died 27 October 1905 granted at Belfast to Agnes Maxwell
ADAM LEFT ALL HIS FARM TO SON JOHN WHO WAS IN DOWNPATRICK LUNATIC ASYLUM UNTIL HE WAS ABLE TO COPE.
HE LEFT £10 TO ELIZABETH PALMER & £50 TO AGNES MAXWELL HIS DAUGHTERS.
EXECUTORS:-
JOHN PALMER P/VOGIE FARMER
BROTHER JOHN PALMER PORTAVOGIE CARPENTER
FOR FULL WILL SEE PRONI.
http://applications.proni.gov.uk/DCAL_PRONI_WillsCalendar/WillsSearchImage.aspx?id=249146

SON OF JOHN & NANCY---- ROBERT MARRIED MARY MAHOOD

15.10.1851   Robert Palmer 21   Bachelor  FISHERMAN

Mary Mahood   21 Spinster      Portavogie

FATHERS    John Palmer  Farmer

James Mahood Mother Mary nee Linton
WITNESSES      
James Mahood  James McCully

GLASTRY BIRTHS & BAPTISM
MIC/IP111 Reel 1   3314   Ann Jane     Robert Palmer   Mary Mahood   Portavogie   10.06.1853   18.07.1853
MIC/IP111 Reel 1   3386   Nancy died young   Robert Palmer   Mary Mahood   Portavogie   03.04.1866   17.04.1855
MIC/IP111 Reel 1   3648   Mary died young   Robert Palmer   Mary Mahood   Portavogie   30.01.1861   31.01.1861
MIC/IP111 Reel 1   3731   Margaret    m James  Cully 28/12/1888 ref. 0415       Robert Palmer   Mary Mahood   Portavogie   01.02.1863   17.02.1863
MIC/IP111 Reel 1   3817   Charles          Robert Palmer   Mary Mahood   Portavogie   19.11.1864   24.11.1864
MIC/IP111 Reel 1   3872    Big Samuel M TWICE 02.11.1865  Robert Palmer   Mary Mahood   Portavogie   25.10.1865   02.11.1865
MIC/IP111 Reel 1   4319   Agnes m W.J. Coffey   Robert Palmer   Mary
Mahood   Portavogie   27.04.1871   18.06.1871
MIC/IP111 Reel 1   4523   Mary m Bob Coffey   Robert Palmer   Mary Mahood   Portavogie   01.05.1877   05.08.1877

Robert Coffey son of Thomas Coffey & Sarah Cully; to Mary Palmer in Ballyblack Presbyterian Church on Oct.27, 1899. THOMAS COFFEY WAS THE SON OF WILLIAM COFFEY AND ESTHER NEE GLENN, AND BROTHER OF ESTHER WIFE OF JOHN PALMER OF THE LUGGER SPARKLING WAVE. ALSO BROTHER OF MARGARET DEVOY, NANCY AMBROSE & ELIZA COFFEY WIFE OF WILLIAM COFFEY. ACCORDING TO THEIR FATHERS WILL.
SEE THIS LINK http://www.worldfamilies.net/forum/index.php?topic=9019.

1901
Residents of a house 122 in Portavogue (Ballyhalbert, Down)

Palmer   Mary Nee MAHOOD   70   Female   Boarder   Presbyterian   Co Down   Embroiderer   Read only   -   Widow    died 16th May 1920 aged 89 years.
Coffey   Sarah      Female   Daughter   Presbyterian   Co Down      Cannot read      Not Married  LATER MARRIED TOM AMBROSE
Coffey   Robert   26   Male   Head of Family   Presbyterian   Co Down   Draper   Read and write      Married   
Coffey   Mary nee Palmer   23   Female   Wife   Presbyterian   Co Down   Embroiderer   Read and write      Married   

1911 CENSUS
Residents of a house 56 in Portavogie (Ballyhalbert, Down) 1911
 
Palmer Mary NEE MAHOOD 80 Female Head of Family Presbyterian Co Down  Read only  Widow

GLASTRY PRES. CH. G.Y.
PALMER. [White marble stone in low-railed enclosure.]
Erected by Mary NEE MAHOOD Palmer in memory of her beloved husband Robert Palmer who died 21st January 1891 aged 59 years. BORN 1832
Also their daughter Nancy, died 1854, aged 1 year and 9 months.
Also three children who died in infancy.
Also Beatrice, daughter of Robert John Palmer, who died 22nd Feby. 1909 aged 11 months.
Also the above Mary Palmer who died 16th May 1920 aged 89 years.
Also her son Robert John Palmer who died 29th March 1934 aged 75 years.
Also Annie, daughter of Robert John Palmer, who died 17th March 1939 aged 43 years.
Also Elizabeth, wife of Robert John Palmer, who died 14th July 1952 aged 89 years.
Mary Palmer died Apr.5, 1976, aged 82 years. Daughter of R J Palmer. She was deaf.
SON Adam died Apr.22, 1986, aged 83 years and wife Essie ORR died Nov.23, 2002 aged 86.
 
(Essie nee Orr daughter of Thomas Orr & Agnes Fullerton; & grand daughter of Sarah nee Palmer & Thomas Orr. Sarah, only daughter of John Palmer and Esther nee Coffey; daughter of William Coffey and Esther [McClements?)
Ann Palmer daughter of Adam and Essie, missionary in Zambia died Jun.18, 1992, aged 50 years. SINGLE

52   15.07.1893   
Robert John Palmer Full   Bachelor Fisherman   Portavogie FATHER ROBERT PALMER fisherman Portavogie

Lizzie Palmer   Full Spinster Portavogie FATHER ADAM PALMER FARMER MUM NANCY GORDON

WITNESSES Wm. James Coffey & Agnes Palmer SISTER OF ROBERT JOHN

19   14.01.1878   Thomas Orr Full Age   Bachelor Fisherman Portavogie
Sarah Palmer   Under Full Age   Spinster   Portavogie   
FATHERS
David Orr Farmer
John Palmer   Fisherman   
WITNESSES Wm  Charles &  Eliza Orr
 
Sarah Palmer Orr’s parents
12.11.1856   John Palmer  &  Esther Coffey            Portavogie
FATHERS    James Palmer  Fisherman
William Coffey   Farmer   
WITNESSES Samuel Cully  

1901 census
Residents of a house 121 in Portavogue (Ballyhalbert, Down)
Palmer   Mary   7   Female   Daughter   Presbyterian   Co Down   Scholar   Read and write      Not Married   
Palmer   Maggie   1   Female   Daughter   Presbyterian   Co Down      Cannot read      Not Married   married Hugh ADAIR
Palmer   Elizabeth   4   Female   Daughter   Presbyterian   Co Down   Scholar   Cannot read      Not Married   
Palmer   Annie   6   Female   Daughter   Presbyterian   Co Down   Scholar   Read and write      Not Married   
Palmer   ROBT JOHN   44   Male   Head of Family   Presbyterian   Co Down   Fisherman   Read and write      Married   
Palmer   Lizzie nee Palmer Daughter of Adam   35   Female   Head of Family Wife   Presbyterian   Co Down   Embroiderer   Read and write      Married   

1911 census

Residents of a house 57 in Portavogie (Ballyhalbert, Down)

Palmer   Robert John   53   Male   Head of Family   Presbyterian   Co Down   Fisherman   Read and write      Married   
Palmer   Elizabeth   nee Palmer 47   Female   Wife   Presbyterian   Co Down   Embroiderer   Read and write      Married      18   6   5
Palmer   Mary   17   Female   Daughter   Presbyterian   Co Down   Embroiderer   Read and write      Single   
Palmer   Annie   15   Female   Daughter   Presbyterian   Co Down   Embroiderer   Read and write      Single   
Palmer   Elizabeth   13   Female   Daughter   Presbyterian   Co Down   Scholar   Read and write      Single   
Palmer   Maggie   11   Female   Daughter   Presbyterian   Co Down   Scholar   Read and write      Single   
Palmer   Adam   8   Male   Son   Presbyterian   Co Down   Scholar   Cannot read      Single

   
07.10.1893   Wm. James Coffey Full  Bachelor Fisherman   Portavogie   FATHER Thomas Coffey  Fisherman
Agnes Palmer   Full Spinster  Portavogie DAUGHTER OF  Robert Palmer & MARY MAHOOD Fisherman
WITNESSES   Essie Coffey Thomas Mahood

Their g/daughter Etta nee Coffey Manley says they had 6 children but only 2 survived; her dad James & his sister Lizzie who did not marry.
Etta also remembers.....  James Palmer (her grandmother's brother) went to Kansas City and her Grannie went on O'Brien's Brake  (one of the first types of public transport in the Peninsula) to Belfast to see him off on the boat.  
Etta remembers..... "as a child 4 or 5, before I went to school, my grannie getting a tea chest full of figs, dates, and tins of pears,coming to Agnes Coffey behind the Mission Hall  Portavogie. It came on a green transport lorry and the driver was David Brown, he carried it on his shoulder and my granny thought he had made a mistake and it was not for her. I don't believe there was ever an answer to him as my granny could not write.
My granda William James Coffey used to get the daily paper and old neighbours came to hear the news."  

Many thanks to Etta for sharing these memories with us.  See James below.

JAMES son of Robert Palmer & Mary nee Mahood
James Palmer was born about 1857 according to his grave marker. In 1883 he emigrated to USA ending up in Kansas City. About 1890, James married a Swedish woman named Anna, born in 1857.  James lived almost his entire life at 945 Sandusky Avenue, Kansas City, (the house was restored in the 1970s according to a newspaper article). In 1920 James was working as a laborer in the Fowler (meat) Packing Company. James and Anna both died in 1949 and are buried in the Highland Park Cemetery, Kansas City. James was ``survived by a brother Samuel and a sister Agnes Coffey in Northern Ireland''. James and Anna had three children:

   1. Anna Jane Palmer was born on Apr.1, 1890, in Kansas City and and is listed in the 1920 Census as living with her father. She was a bookkeeper for the Jones dry goods store. Annie died unmarried on Jul.16, 1984, in Kansas City. She is also buried in Highland Park Cemetery. Anna Jane's cousin Sarah Palmer Warnock came to the USA to visit her in Anna Jane's waning years.
   2. James Palmer was born on Sep.18, 1893, in Kansas City and is listed in the 1920 Census as living with his father. He fought in the army during WWI and was a clerk in the Armour Meat Packing Company. He died unmarried on Dec.2, 1972, in the Veterans Hospital in Leavenworth, Kansas. He is buried in Highland Park Cemetery.
   3. Florence Palmer was born on Dec.9, 1895, in Kansas City and is listed in the 1920 Census as living with her father. She worked as an office girl for a wholesale  company and as a counter attendant in the Forum Cafeteria. She died unmarried on Mar.4, 1975, and is buried in Highland Park Cemetery.

BIG SAM SON OF ROBERT & MARY MAHOOD PALMER MARRIED TWICE
PALMER.
Erected by Samuel Palmer of Portavogie for wife Eliza Jane died May 19, 1897, age 30.  [ Samuel Palmer to Eliza Jane Hughes in Glastry Meetinghouse on Aug.18, 1888.]
Son William died Jul.19, 1897, age 4 mths.
Also wife Elizabeth died Oct.27, 1917, age 42. [Samuel Palmer to Elizabeth Tibbs in Greyabbey Presbyterian Church on Jul.9, 1898]
Also daughter Annie died Dec.10, 1933, age 39.
Above Samuel died Jul.28, 1953, age 87.
Son Thomas died Mar.10, 1983, aged 75. DID NOT MARRY
Also son Robert Hughes died 1986 aged 93.

The late Capt. Sam Warnock SON OF SARAH "SALLY" NEE PALMER & WM. WARNOCK & g son of Big Sam above told me that he was the same family as "Sunbeam" and I've only now been able to join them up.

SON OF JOHN & NANCY PALMER  
John MARRIED MARY PIPER & LIVED IN Sunbeam House

John's Birth in Glastry.
MIC/IP111 Reel 1   3018   John    John Palmer   Nancy McKibbin   Portavogie   01.04.1846   15.04.1846**

John Palmer to Mary Anne Piper in Glastry Meetinghouse on Dec.31, 1877

31.12.1877   John Palmer Full   Bachelor Fisherman Portavogie
Mary Piper   Full Spinster   Portavogie   
FATHERS John Palmer Farmer
William Piper   Farmer
WITNESSES   William Piper
Marianne

 
MIC/IP111/2    4617     Agnes   John Palmer   Mary Piper   Portavogie   11.04.1880
MIC/IP111/2    4728    William Piper   John Palmer   Mary Piper   Portavogie   10.08.1883
MIC/IP111/2    4777    Adam   John Palmer   Mary Piper   Portavogie   20.08.1885
MIC/IP111/2   4689   John   John Palmer   Mary Pyper   Portavogie   20.05.1882
MIC/IP111/2   4895   Mary Elizabeth   John Palmer   Mary Pyper   Portavogie   10.05.1888

GLASTRY PRES. CHURCH
PALMER.
Erected by John Palmer of Portavogie for his son Adam died Jan.31, 1909, age 23.
    
Above John died Oct.15, 1930, age 84 yrs. BORN 1846 **

Wife Mary died Jul.17, 1941, age 87.
 
Daughter Agnes Taylor died Mar.25, 1948.

15   15.07.1902   Thomas Taylor Full   Bachelor Boilermaker   Belfast FATHER John Taylor Blacksmith

Aggie Palmer   Full Spinster Portavogie FATHER John Palmer   Carpenter
WITHESSES John Pyper  Nancy Palmer
 
Son John died in Auckland NZ on Mar.11, 1949.  married Mary Ellen MURPHY c 1905 in Auckland.
Father of Mary Ellen was Edward  Murphy (married Sarah Beckett) family were from Lurgan, Co.Armagh emigrated to New Zealand in 1874.
Many thanks to Richard and Maureen Brougham Napier New Zealand for the information on John.

Mary Elizabeth died Mar.10, 1952, age 74 did not marry.

Wife of son William Piper Palmer, Jane died Sep.25, 1999, age 96 yrs.

William emigrated to the US and as a 25-year-old single engineer from Portavogie arrived in New York on Apr.11, 1908, aboard the ``Baltic'' from Liverpool. He was bound for his brother Adam Palmer, 5530 May Street, Chicago. In Chicago he worked in a steel mill and married Francis E. Wilson whose mother was Jane Savage (born Sep.28, 1851, in Portaferry) and whose father was William Wilson (born May 10, 1849, in Glastry) Francis died in an awful train accident in Sep. 1948.

A few years later in 1950 or 1951 William returned to Northern Ireland and lived with Addie and Deborah Taylor at 5 Edgecumbe Park, until he bought a home at 2 Gloucester Avenue, Donaghadee. He married Jane (or Jean) Palmer from Donaghadee.
William died on Aug.25, 1958, aged 74 and Jane on Sep.25, 1999, aged 96; they are buried in Glastry graveyard. William's children:  Evelyn Violet Palmer was born on Dec.19, 1910, and married Harry Herman Volkmar on Jul.30 in the early 1930s. They had a daughter:

   1. HarLyn Jean Palmer Volkmar was born on Dec.30, 1941, and grew up in Riverdale, Illinois. She married a man named Mlynek.

Thanks to Harlyn for the information on William.

1901
Residents of a house 14 in Portavogue (Ballyhalbert, Down)

Palmer   John   54   Male   Head of Family   Presbyterian   Co Down   Farmer and Carpenter   Read and write      Married   
Palmer   Mary   48   Female   Wife   Presbyterian   Co Down   Embroiderer   Read and write      Married   
Palmer   Agnes   20   Female   Daughter   Presbyterian   Co Down   Dressmaker   Read and write      Not Married   
Palmer   Adam*   15   Male   Son   Presbyterian   Co Down   Scholar   Read and write      Not Married   
Palmer   M C   12   Female   Daughter   Presbyterian   Co Down   Scholar   Read and write      Not Married   
Palmer   Jane   57   BORN 1844 Female   Sister in Law   Church of Ireland   Co Down   Dressmaker   Read and write      Widow

Adam* Palmer, 21-year-old single carpenter from Portavogie (born in Kircubbin) arrived in New York on Nov.23, 1906, aboard the ``Cedric'' from Liverpool. He was bound for his brother William Palmer,**5530 May Street, Chicago.

William Palmer, 25-year-old single engineer from Portavogie arrived in New York on Apr.11, 1908, aboard the ``Baltic'' from Liverpool. He was bound for his brother *Adam Palmer, **5530 May Street, Chicago.
Adam died Jan.31, 1909, age 23 and is buried in Glastry.

Sons of Sam. Palmer & Annie nee Millar [note all are going to the same address in Chicago **.]
Samuel Palmer, 23-year-old single carpenter from Ballyhalbert (brother of John Palmer of Ballyhalbert) arrived in New York on Feb.20, 1909, aboard the ``Baltic'' from Liverpool. He was with his friend William McWhirk and bound for his friend, Thomas Polly, at **5530 May Street, Chicago.

1911 CENSUS  

Residents of a house 177 in Portavogie (Ballyhalbert, Down) "SUNBEAM" THE HOUSE FACES WEST SO GETS THE AFTERNOON SUN.

Palmer   John   65   Male   Head of Family   Presbyterian   Co Down   Carpenter   Read and write      Married      34   5   4
Palmer   Mary NEE PIPER   57   Female   Wife   Presbyterian   Co Down      Read and write      Married      34   5   4
Palmer   Mary   22   Female   Daughter   Presbyterian   Co Down      Read and write      Single   DID NOT MARRY
Taylor   John   4   Male   Grand Son   Presbyterian   Belfast      Cannot read      Single      

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