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alan trowel hands.
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« on: January 21, 2011, 06:54:52 PM »

what proportion of S116 still falls into the S116* paragroup? It seems given this is essentially a paragroup of S116 clades whose SNPs have not been discovered as yet that the more this group shrinks the better.  I have heard of the N-S cluster and there seems to be progress in term sf new SNPs.

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« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2011, 12:06:32 AM »

L11 is not part of the P312/S116 paragroup. L11 is the next step in the R1b tree above the split of L11 into P312 and U106. L11* is it's own paragroup, signifying those who are L11+, but negative for both U106 and P312. All U106 and P312 are L11+. As far as I know, the only two identified subclades of L11 are P312 and U106.
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« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2011, 05:05:34 AM »

L11 is not part of the P312/S116 paragroup. L11 is the next step in the R1b tree above the split of L11 into P312 and U106. L11* is it's own paragroup, signifying those who are L11+, but negative for both U106 and P312. All U106 and P312 are L11+. As far as I know, the only two identified subclades of L11 are P312 and U106.

sorry that was a mistake.  I meant to type S116 not L11.  I have amended post. 
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« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2011, 04:37:13 PM »

I could only guess at that. Most of S116/P312 falls into L21 or U152; SRY2627 and M153 are smaller subclades, and some of the others appear to be smaller yet. My guess would be that the portion with an as yet unidentified subclade is about a third or a quarter. Perhaps someone else has a better idea.
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« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2011, 08:39:27 PM »

I could only guess at that. Most of S116/P312 falls into L21 or U152; SRY2627 and M153 are smaller subclades, and some of the others appear to be smaller yet. My guess would be that the portion with an as yet unidentified subclade is about a third or a quarter. Perhaps someone else has a better idea.

Without going to the trouble of trying to make a meticulous count, I would say that sounds about right.
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