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Could this be the first Lucy Martin?
SLANES OLD GRAVEYARD

MARTEN
Here lieth the body of William Marten late of Kirkiston who died .... 7th 1763 aged 66 yrs. BORN 1697
Also his wife Lucey Marten alias HATCH who died .. July 1787 aged 65 yrs. BORN 1722
Also John Marten, late of Kirkiston, who died March 22nd 1810 aged 70 yrs.
Also his wife Jean Marten alias THOMPSON who died 1805 aged 55 yrs.
  
GLASTRY BIRTH

MIC/IP111/2   503   Lucy   William Martin      Kirkistown   26.07.1772
  

GLASTRY PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH MARRIAGES

219   28.11.1836   Adam Palmer  Lucy Martin Portavogie Kirkiston         WITNESSES Adam Palmer Mrs Hughes

239   19.02.1838   Robert Palmer Isabella Palmer            Ballyfrench Ballyeasboro        
WITNESSES James Palmer Mr. Orr

ADAM PALMER HAD A BROTHER ROBERT WHO WAS EXECUTOR OF THE WILL ALONG WITH HIS WIFE LUCY. FOR ROBERT SCROLL DOWN.

Title :       Date of Death :    22 April 1880
Surname :    Palmer    Date of Grant :    2 May 1881
Forename :    Adam    Reseal Date :    
Registry :    Belfast    Effects :    Effects under £100
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Full Abstract :
The Will of Adam Palmer late of Portavogie County Down Farmer deceased who died 22 April 1880 at same place was proved at Belfast by Lucy Palmer of Portavogie Widow one of the Executors.

http://applications.proni.gov.uk/DCAL_PRONI_WillsCalendar/willsSearchResultsDetails.aspx

ADAM'S WILL WAS SIGNED [X HIS MARK] ON 18TH APRIL 1870 [HE DIED 22ND APRIL 1870 SEE GRAVE BELOW]
PROBATE 2ND MAY 1881 TO WIDOW LUCY PALMER AND ON HER DEATH TO HIS SON ADAM PALMER.
RESERVING THE RIGHTS OF BROTHER ROBERT PALMER.
WITNESSES FRANCIS BRANDON, JOHN DONNAN.

SON ADAM**
MARRIAGE
Adam Palmer to Margaret Ennis in Ballywalter Second Presbyterian Church on Jun.28, 1881.
http://www.worldfamilies.net/forum/index.php?topic=9409.0

SON ROBERT*
Robert Palmer,  became a seaman. On Jun.28, 1884, in the Newtownards Registry Office he married Agnes Adair.

http://www.worldfamilies.net/forum/index.php?topic=9448.0

BALLYHALBERT OLD GRAVEYARD

Erected by Lucy Palmer, Portavogie, in memory of her beloved husband Adam
Palmer, departed this life 22nd April 1870 aged 66 years. [BORN 1804]
Also the above named Lucy Palmer who died 24th March 1909 aged 95 years.

BIRTH Records from PRONI for Glastry Presbyterian Church with thanks to Iris Palmer

48   27.01.1858   Samuel Mahood    21  Bachelor Carpenter   Portavogie
Ellen Palmer    18   Spinster   Portavogie
Fathers   William Mahood  Farmer  & Adam Palmer   Farmer
witnesses   Hugh Martin  Lucy Martin

MIC/IP111/2   2661   Eleanor   Adam Palmer   Lucy Martin   Portavogie   23.12.1839   07.01.1840  ELLEN
MIC/IP111/2   2781   James   Adam Palmer   Lucy Martin   Portavogie   24.02.1842   28.02.1842
MIC/IP111/2   2912   Robert *? died at birth   Adam Palmer   Lucy Martin   Portavogie   19.08.1844   27.08.1844
MIC/IP111/2   2988   Robert *   Adam Palmer   Lucy Martin   Portavogie   01.09.1845   16.09.1845
MIC/IP111/2   3098   Ann   Adam Palmer   Lucy Martin   Portavogie   26.01.1848   09.02.1848
MIC/IP111/2   3190   Adam **  Adam Palmer   Lucy Martin   Portavogie 07.10.1850   27.10.1850

48   27.01.1858   Samuel Mahood    21  Bachelor Carpenter   Portavogie
Ellen Palmer    18   Spinster   Portavogie
Fathers   William Mahood  Farmer  & Adam Palmer   Farmer
witnesses   Hugh Martin  Lucy Martin

1901 census Portavogie

Residents of a house 90 in Portavogue (Ballyhalbert, Down)

Mahood   Robert   19   Male   Brother   Presbyterian   County Down   House Carpenter   Read and write      Not Married   
Mahood   William   39   Male   Head of Family   Presbyterian   County Down   House and Boat Builder   Read and write      Married   
Mahood   Ellen    NEE PALMER 62   Female   Mother   Presbyterian   County Down   Retired Farmer   Read and write      Widow   
Waterson   Harriet   17   Female   Servant   Church of England   County Down   General Servant Domestic   Read and write      Not Married   
Mahood   Lizzie   29   Female   Wife   Presbyterian   County Down      Read and write      Married   

1901 Census
Residents of a house 130 in Portavogue (Ballyhalbert, Down)

Hughes   Margaret   16   Female   Daughter   Presbyterian   Co Down   National School Teacher   Read and write      Not Married  
Hughes   Nellie   12   Female   Daughter   Presbyterian   Co Down   Scholar   Read and write      Not Married  
Hughes   Mary E   20   Female   Daughter   Presbyterian   Co Down   National School Teacher   Read and write      Not Married  
Hughes   Ann   NEE PALMER 52   Female   Head of Family   Presbyterian   Co Down   Seamstress   Read and write      Married  
Palmer   Lucinda NEE MARTIN   88   Female   Mother in Law   Presbyterian   Co Down   Retired Dressmaker   Read      WIDOW OF ADAM PALMER
Hughes   Robert   9   Male   Son   Presbyterian   Co Down   Scholar   Read and write   -   Not Married  
Hughes   John   6   Male   Son   Presbyterian   Co Down   Scholar   Read and write   -   Not Married  
Hughes   Hugh   14   Male   Son   Presbyterian   Co Down   Apprentice Carpenter   Read and write     Not Married   SEE THIS LINK FOR HUGH HUGHES  http://www.worldfamilies.net/forum/index.php?topic=9448.0

SON OF ADAM; JAMES PALMER WHO ALSO MARRIED A LUCY MARTIN LIVED ON A FARM  ON THE JUNCTION OF SPRINGFIELD/WARNOCK'S RD. PORTAVOGIE & THERE IS A SHOP CONNECTED TO IT; STILL THERE BUT CLOSED UP IN 2010.

MIC/IP111/2   4384   James   James Palmer   Lucy Martin   Portavogie   13.12.1872   14.05.1873
MIC/IP111/2   4004   Adam   James Palmer   Lucy Martin   Portavogie   12.08.1868   20.08.1868
MIC/IP111/2   4441   Samuel   James Palmer   Lucy Martin   Portavogie   09.09.1874   05.11.1874
MIC/IP111/2   4477   Robert   James Palmer   Lucy Martin   Portavogie   11.03.1876   19.04.1876
MIC/IP111/2   4326   Lizzie   James Palmer   Lucy Martin   Portavogie   08.06.1871   13.07.1871

LIZZIE PALMER M WILLIAM MAHOOD.
William Mahood to Elizabeth Palmer in Greyabbey Presbyterian Church on Sep.23, 1895.


1901 CENSUS
Residents of a house 131 in Portavogue (Ballyhalbert, Down)

Mahood   James   1   Male   Grand Son   Presbyterian   Co Down      Cannot read    Not Married  
Palmer   James   57   Male   Head of Family   Presbyterian   County Down   Shop Keeper and Farmer   Read and write   English   Married  
Johnston   Mary   21   Female   Servant   Presbyterian   County Down   Domestic Servant   Read and write   English   Not Married  
Palmer   James   28   Male   Son   Presbyterian   County Down   Farmer Son   Read and write   English   Not Married  
Palmer   Adam   32   Male   Son   Presbyterian   County Down   Farmer Son   Read and write   English   Not Married  
Palmer   Robert   25   Male   Son   Presbyterian   County Down   Clerk   Read and write   English   Not Married  
Palmer   Lucy   NEE MARTIN 62   Female   Wife   Presbyterian   County Down     Read and write   English   Married  

1911 CENSUS
Residents of house number 32 in Portavogie (Ballyhalbert, Down) 1911 census

Palmer    James    70    Male    Head of Family    Presbyterian    County Down    Farmer    Read and write       Married        6    6
Palmer    Lucy   NEE MARTIN 74    Female    Wife    Presbyterian    County Down      Read and write      Married        40    6    6
Palmer    Adam    43    Male    Son    Presbyterian    County Down       Read and write      Single    
Palmer    James *   39    Male    Son    Presbyterian    County Down        Read and write      Single    
Mahood    James    12    Male    Grand Son    Presbyterian    County Down    At School    Read and write       Single  ( James Palmer Mahood was married to Isabella Jane McDonnell in Portaferry Presbyterian Church on Feb.9. 1921

Son  James* Palmer was born on Dec.13, 1872, in Portavogie and is listed in the 1901 Census of Portavogie as a 28-year-old farmer living with his parents. James had a farm at Warnock's Road. He was still single in the 1911 census.

James married Elizabeth [Lily] Cavan

Residents of a house 17 in Kearney (Quintin, Down)1901
 
Cavan Elizabeth 17 Female Daughter Presbyterian County Down Helper Read and write  Not Married this is Lily who married James Palmer
Cavan William 65 Male Head of Family Presbyterian County Down Farmer Read and write Married  wife was Isabella  MOORE
Cavan John Moore 21 Male Son Presbyterian County Down Farmer Son Helper Read and write  Not Married
Cavan Andrew S 12 Male Son Presbyterian County Down At School Read and write - Not Married

 Andrew Samuel Cavan to Annie Jane Palmer [DAUGHTER OF DAVID AND JANE NEE PALMER] in Glastry Meetinghouse on Jun.10,

SEE THIS LINK http://www.worldfamilies.net/forum/index.php?topic=9835.0

1914. ANDREW CAVAN LIVED ON MOORE FARM AT SANDYLANDS BALLYHALBERT.

Title :       Date of Death :    31 January 1906
Surname :    Moore    Date of Grant :    4 April 1906
Forename :    John    Reseal Date :    
Registry :    Belfast    Effects :    Effects £1,702 4s.
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Full Abstract :
Probate of the Will of John Moore late of Ballyhalbert County Down Farmer who died 31 January 1906 granted at Belfast to James M'Adam and Francis Caughey Farmers.
HE ALSO APPOINTS HIS DAUGHTER ISABELLA CAVAN KEARNEY AS AN EXECUTOR.

FULL WILL SAYS JOHN MCDONNELL IS A BROTHER-IN-LAW
Title :       Date of Death :    5 July 1901
Surname :    Cavan    Date of Grant :    31 July 1901
Forename :    William    Reseal Date :    
Registry :    Belfast    Effects :    Effects £743 15s.
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Full Abstract :
Probate of the Will of William Cavan late of Kearney County Down Farmer who died 5 July 1901 granted at Belfast to Isabella Cavan Widow and John M'Donnell Farmer.

http://applications.proni.gov.uk/DCAL_PRONI_WillsCalendar/willsSearchResultsDetails.aspx

Dundonald Cementry

PALMER
In loving memory of our dear son William who died 25th April  1942 aged 26 yrs.
Also my dear wife Elizabeth [Lily] who died 14th September 1947 aged 63 Yrs.
Also James husband of above who died 17th Aug. 1949 aged 77 yrs.
Also their daughters Isobel Mahood who died 14th Aug. 2002 aged 81 yrs.
Also Ann Palmer who died 1st. Aug. 2003 aged 86 yrs.

James's children:

  1 Isobel Palmer m William Mahood had 4 sons and lived in Dundonald.
  2 Anne Palmer (did not marry) After a life in the forces she retired to Portavogie in the 1990's. She died 2003.
  3. Elizabeth Palmer (Betty) Twin of Anne above moved to London then in 1980's came back to Newtownrds.
  4. Lucy Palmer Did not marry lived in Orangefield East Belfast
  5. William Palmer died young
   6. Robert went to USA

All 4 sisters are now dead. Information from Paul Armstrong a grandson of one of the sisters who recalls spending long summer holidays on this farm in Warnocks Road every year as a child from the mid 1970's.

FAMILY OF DAVID AND JANE NEE PALMER

David Palmer to Jane Palmer in Millisle Presbyterian Church on Dec.9, 1881

MIC/IP111 Reel 1   4498   Mary Keag   David Palmer   Jane Palmer   Ballyeasboro   25.09.1882   17.10.1882
MIC/IP111 Reel 1   4750   James   David Palmer   Jane Palmer   Ballyeasboro   16.05.1884   02.06.1884
MIC/IP111 Reel 1   4878   William John   David Palmer   Jane Palmer   Ballyeasboro   13.07.1886   05.08.1886
MIC/IP111 Reel 1   4896   Ann Jane   David Palmer   Jane Palmer   Ballyeasboro   04.01.1889   05.02.1889
MIC/IP111 Reel 1   4954   David   David Palmer   Jane Palmer   Ballyeasboro   04.05.1891   31.06.1891


MORE GLASTRY PRES. MAHOOD /PALMER MARRIAGES
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31   18.11.1848   
Alexander Palmer  21   Bachelor   Sailor Portavogie
Nancy Mahood   21 Spinster  Portavogie

FATHERS   James Palmer Farmer
Samuel Mahood  Labourer
WITNESSES Adam Palmer  John McCully

75   15.10.1851   
Robert Palmer  21   Bachelor Portavogie
Mary Mahood   21  Spinster Portavogie
21   Bachelor
FATHERS   John Palmer Farmer
Samuel ? Mahood      
WITNESSES   James McCully   James Mahood
   
15.01.1861   
William Mahood  Full Sailor Bachelor Portavogie
Sarah Palmer   Full Spinster Portavogie

FATHERS   James Mahood Labourer
James Palmer   Farmer   
WITNESSES  Samuel Cully  Ann Palmer

Also see these 2 links for more Palmer information who also lived in that area.

http://www.worldfamilies.net/forum/index.php?topic=9019.0

http://www.worldfamilies.net/forum/index.php?topic=9781.

Posted and edited by Lena McVea Administrator  

Thanks to Paul Armstrong and Derek Mahood for their help with James Palmer & Lily nee Cavan Palmer.
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« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2013, 09:19:42 AM »

FOR MORE ON THE PALMER FAMILY SEE THIS LINK
http://www.dankat.com/brennen/content.htm

239   19.02.1838   Robert Palmer Isabella Palmer            Ballyfrench Ballyeasboro        
WITNESSES James Palmer Mr. Orr

Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1921
Name:     William Palmer
Date of Registration:              1874
Registration District:              Newtownards
Volume:   1
Page Number:         977
FHL Film Number: 101252
Records on Page:  
Name
William Palmer
Jane Piper

FAMILY OF ROBERT & ISABELLA

SON WILLIAM PALMER BAPTIZED 1st FEB. 1839 GLASTRY PREBYS. CHURCH MARRIED JANE PIPER 1874

MARY BORN 12nd JUNE 1841 was married on Apr.22, 1864, in the Parish Church of Ballyhalbert to James Glover, full age, bachelor, schoolmaster, of Ballyeasborough (father: John Glover, farmer). James was born in 1845.
 
ADAM BORN 20th MARCH 1844 DID NOT MARRY

ROBERT BORN 8th JUNE 1845  married to Margaret Harper in Portaferry Presbyterian Church on Oct.6, 1869.

ANDREW
Andrew Palmer was born about 1838, the son of Robert Palmer, laborer,
according to Andrew's marriage certificate. On Jun.2, 1860, in Newtownards
Registry Office, Andrew Palmer, a 22-year-old bachelor labourer of
Ballyesborough (father: Robert Palmer, labourer) was married to Esther
McCliment, 21, spinster, of Ballyesborough (father: Robert McCliment,
labourer)

B/EASBORO C.O.I.
PALMER. Erected by Andrew Palmer
Ballyeasborough for his son Adam died Jan.27, 1891, age 21.
Also above Andrew died Apr.9, 1914, age 76.''


Title :       Date of Death :    27 June 1896
Surname :    Palmer    Date of Grant :    29 July 1896
Forename :    William    Reseal Date :    
Registry :    Belfast    Effects :    Effects £240
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Letters of Administration of the personal estate of William Palmer late of Portavogie County Down Shoemaker who died 27 June 1896 at Newtownards said County were granted at Belfast to Jane Palmer of Portavogie the Widow.

Residents of a house 14 in Portavogue (Ballyhalbert, Down)1901
 
Palmer John 54 Male Head of Family Presbyterian Co Down Farmer and Carpenter Read and write  Married  
Palmer Mary 48 Female Wife Presbyterian Co Down Embroiderer Read and write Married  
Palmer Agnes 20 Female Daughter Presbyterian Co Down Dressmaker Read and write  Not Married
Palmer Adam 15 Male Son Presbyterian Co Down Scholar Read and write  Not Married  
Palmer M C 12 Female Daughter Presbyterian Co Down Scholar Read and write  Not Married  
Palmer Jane NEE PIPER  57 Female Sister in Law Church of Ireland Co Down Dressmaker Read and write  Widow OF WILLIAM PALMER [NOT A BROTHER OF JOHN]

[John's Birth in Glastry.
MIC/IP111 Reel 1   3018   John    John Palmer   Nancy McKibbin   Portavogie   01.04.1846   15.04.1846]

Residents of a house 209 in Portavogie (Ballyhalbert, Down)1911

Palmer Jane 66 Female Head of Family Church of Ireland Co Down Spinster Read and write Widow

Title :  Date of Death : 12 September 1912
Surname : Palmer Date of Grant : 6 December 1912
Forename : Jane Reseal Date :  
Registry : Belfast Effects : Effects £381 12s. 10d.
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Probate of the Will of Jane Palmer late of Portavogie Kircubbin County Down Widow who died 12 September 1912 granted at Belfast to James Pyper and John Palmer Farmers
 






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