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Maliclavelli
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« Reply #25 on: April 22, 2010, 01:01:41 PM »

31. Gasparre1  A28.JS    EF660939(Italy)               HV4
T4768C   T7094C   T8639C   C8794T   C12399T  A13527G  C13680T  A15442G  C16221T

59. Kujanova       A4.JS        EU935436(Egypt)        HV
A73G     C1733T   A3606G   T8772C   A13866G  T14256C  T16189C  G16390A 

These are the Italian and the Egyptian. You can see who is closest to you.
Anyway they have a MRCA, if they have, many ten thousands of years ago.

My name is Gioiello Tognoni del Badia. R1b1b2a (S136+). K1a1b1.
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« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2010, 01:12:05 PM »

Really the Egyptian to compare is this:

61. Kujanova       A25.JS       EU935457(Egypt)        HV
T236C    T7094C   G7805A   G8251A   G9055A   A11671G  G16129A  C16221T

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« Reply #27 on: April 22, 2010, 01:13:35 PM »

Well, the Egyptian actually belongs to HV, the parent of HV4. So that one could have been a back migration from the Near East. The Italian sample most definitely came from Southern Italy.

Badia, that's up north, eh?
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« Reply #28 on: April 22, 2010, 01:14:30 PM »

Really the Egyptian to compare is this:

61. Kujanova       A25.JS       EU935457(Egypt)        HV
T236C    T7094C   G7805A   G8251A   G9055A   A11671G  G16129A  C16221T



This one is HV4 due to the 7094C mutation.
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« Reply #29 on: April 22, 2010, 01:18:18 PM »

Anyway nothing changes: tens of thousands of years.

My "Badia" has nothing to do with "Val Badia". Anyway they are Rhaetians, the most ancient Italians, I think, what I have called the "Rhaetian-Etruskan Fatherland". And as days are passing I feel more and more to be right.
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« Reply #30 on: April 22, 2010, 01:22:52 PM »

Anyway nothing changes: tens of thousands of years.

My "Badia" has nothing to do with "Val Badia". Anyway they are Rhaetians, the most ancient Italians, I think, what I have called the "Rhaetian-Etruskan Fatherland". And as days are passing I feel more and more to be right.

At any rate, you can see HV4's distribution in the Eastern Mediterranean.

You don't think R1b1b2 came into Italy from the Balkans?
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« Reply #31 on: April 22, 2010, 01:53:11 PM »

The map of Argiedude about R-L51*, you can see on this forum, says that the center was Italy and the Balkans pretty nothing. R1b1* was found by Cruciani 3 out of 5 in Italy over the world, nothing in the Balkans. Anyway the Balkans' shores were part of the Italian Refugium during the Epigravettian. As I have said many times, then weren't Italy, Spain, France or Greece, then you must take Italy in a wide meaning. Anyway I think it was the center.
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