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Lineage II Huddleston Y-DNA Test Results: An Interesting Case


The Y-DNA test results for the group labeled as “Huddleston Lineage II” seem to be making a case for this particular lineage to have been using the surname of Huddleston for a very long period of time.

The two Lineage II Huddleston Y-DNA test subjects whose test results fall at the farthest deviation from the mean test results are not showing up in the automated system as sharing a common male ancestor. These two Huddleston test subjects both do, however, show up in the automated system as sharing a common male Huddleston ancestor with the Y-DNA test subjects falling within the mean test results.


There may be at least three possible reasons for the results that suggest this anomaly:

1. The 1st posibility is that the Lineage II Huddleston test subjects are descended from a group of Huddlestons who have carried the Huddleston surname for a period of time exceeding 24 generations, or approximately over 600 years.

2. The 2nd possibility is that at least some of the descendant lines of these Lineage II Huddlestons possess Y-DNA which has a much more frequent rate of mutation than is the norm, thus preventing the automated system from picking up some of their matches.

3. The 3rd possibility is that the particular locations of the mutations are preventing the automatic matching system from picking up the matches, and that these four Huddleston individuals would all be more closely matching on 67 markers, with some distance, if they were all tested on 67 markers.


Description of the Y-DNA test results that are suggesting this anomaly:

Both Kit #67247 (67 markers tested) and Kit #105725 (37 markers tested) are showing a common male ancestor with the other 2 remaining members of the Lineage II Huddlestons, Kit #119136 (67 markers tested) and Kit #106263 (37 markers tested).

Kit #119136 (67) is showing a common male ancestor with Kit #67247 (67) and Kit #105725), but is NOT showing a common male ancestor with Kit #106263 (37).*

Kit #106263 (37) is showing a common male ancestor with Kit #67247 (67) and Kit #105725), but is NOT showing a common male ancestor with Kit #119136 (67)**


These results seem to suggest that the Huddleston lines of Kit #119136 and Kit #106263 separated from each other more than 24 generations ago, or more than approximately 600 years, allowing 25 years per generation. Both Kit #119136 and Kit #106263 are more recently sharing a common male Huddleston ancestor with Kit #67247 and Kit #105725.

[Note: All four Lineage II Huddleston members are only showing Y-DNA matches with Huddleston surnamed test subjects from the 25 to 67 marker level]


Y-DNA Evidence for Argument Shown Below:

Lineage II Huddlestons
Probable Number of Generations to Common Male Ancestor:

Number of Generations / Probability

1. Kit #105725 (37) compared to Kit #119136 (67):

4 / 58.56%
8 / 88.77%:
12 / 97.37%
16 / 99.47%
20 / 99.88%
24 / 99.98%

2. Kit #105725 (37) compared to Kit #67247 (67):

4 / 3.64%
8 / 26.77%
12 / 56.16%
16 / 78.82%
20 / 91.13%
24 / 96.65%

3. Kit #105725 (37) compared to Kit #106263 (37):

4 / 3.04%
8 / 22.69%
12 / 51.65%
16 / 74.96%
20 / 88.67%
24 / 95.35%


1. Kit #67247 (67) compared to Kit #119136 (67):

4 / 8.88%
8 / 45.59%
12 / 77.87%
16 / 93%
20 / 98.12%
24 / 99.55%

2. Kit #67247 (67) compared to Kit # 105725 (37):

4 / 3.64%
8 / 25.77%
12 / 56.16%
16 / 78.82%
20 / 91.13%
24 / 96.65%

3. Kit #67247 (67) compared to Kit #106263 (37):

4 / 3.69%
8 / 26%
12 / 56.48%
16 / 79.08%
20 / 91.29%
24 / 96.73%


1. Kit# 119136 (67) compared to Kit #105725 (37):

4 / 58.56%
8 / 88.77%
12 / 97.37%
16 / 99.43%
20 / 99.88%
24 / 99.98%

2. Kit# 119136 (67) compared to Kit # 67247 (67):

4 / 8.88%
8 / 45.59%
12 / 77.87%
16 / 93%
20 / 98.12%
24 / 99.55%

3. Kit# 119136 (67) compared to Kit #106263 (37):

*[Note: Not showing up as having a common male ancestor]


1. Kit #106263 (37) compared to Kit #105725 (37):

4 / 3.04%
8 / 22.69%
12 / 51.65%
16 / 74.96%
20 / 88.67%
24 / 95.35%

2. Kit #106263 (37) compared to Kit #67247 (67):

4 / 3.69%
8 / 26%
12 / 56.48%
16 / 79.08%
20 / 91.29%
24 / 96.73%

3. Kit #106263 (37) compared to Kit #119136 (67):

**[Note: Not showing up as having a common male ancestor]



Information supplied by:
Mary Lee Becker
Group Administrator
Huddleston DNA Project
28 Oct 2009

http://www.familytreedna.com/public/huddleston/
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