464X Results

[rms2]

If you are in the R-L21 Plus Project and you ordered the 464X test, check your DYS Values page. We got some results in this evening. Most guys were the typical c-c-c-g, but there were two c-c-c-c results, one from another man of probable French ancestry.
 
There were also a couple of Irish c-c-g-g guys and a few c-c-g-c results (not sure of the significance of that).
 
So, check your DYS Values page!

[Mikewww]

Another raft of 464x results have arrived for R-L21* folks.  Here is the breakdown.
15 - 3c1g
2 - 4c
2 - 2c2g

[NealtheRed]

Heyyy,  how can I find out who the CCGG folks are??

[secherbernard]

Another raft of 464x results have arrived for R-L21* folks.  Here is the breakdown.
15 - 3c1g
2 - 4c
2 - 2c2g

One of the 4c is David Pike. David is just near me on the Alex Williamson chart. David is also L69-.
The second one is of Norwegian origin.

[OConnor]

Can anything be made out of 464X results?

I know 464X=CCgg has been found in numbers of the Irish sea model members.
I'm wondering how it fairs outside of this group?

It seems CCCg has been mentioned as a model for R-L21.
I'm wondering if this is still the case?

[jerome72]

I think it's always the case, the modal RL21 would be cccg.
But it would be interresting to know what percentage and also those who are cccc.

I am ccgg, but not Irish  among my ancestors, only french

[Mikewww]

It seems CCCg has been mentioned as a model for R-L21.
I'm wondering if this is still the case?

I think that 3c1g is the most common result for R-L21, but most people don't test for it and it doesn't show up on the FTDNA Y results screens so it is hard to know for sure.

[rms2]

I think it's always the case, the modal RL21 would be cccg.
But it would be interresting to know what percentage and also those who are cccc.

I am ccgg, but not Irish  among my ancestors, only french

And you are L159-, too.

[OConnor]

We have an R-L159.2+ Schneider from Montbronn,  who is CCgg.

[jerome72]

I think it's always the case, the modal RL21 would be cccg.
But it would be interresting to know what percentage and also those who are cccc.

I am ccgg, but not Irish  among my ancestors, only french

And you are L159-, too.

Yes

[cmblandford]

I understood cccg to be distinct from ccgc.  Are these two being lumped together as 3c1g?

[Jdean]

I understood cccg to be distinct from ccgc.  Are these two being lumped together as 3c1g?

I'm 15c-15c-16c-17g

Somebody who is 15c-15c-16g-17c would be different from me but that distinction would only be visible with the 464X test otherwise we would both be just 15-15-16-17.

The sequence is simply placed in numerical order

[Mark Jost]

check out the DYS464Xccgg for a summary

http://www.familytreedna.com/public/DYS464x%20ccgg/default.aspx