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« on: January 20, 2010, 09:16:18 PM »

If you are in the R-L21 Plus Project and you ordered the 464X test, check your DYS Values page. We got some results in this evening. Most guys were the typical c-c-c-g, but there were two c-c-c-c results, one from another man of probable French ancestry.
 
There were also a couple of Irish c-c-g-g guys and a few c-c-g-c results (not sure of the significance of that).
 
So, check your DYS Values page!
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« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2010, 12:49:22 AM »

Another raft of 464x results have arrived for R-L21* folks.  Here is the breakdown.
15 - 3c1g
2 - 4c
2 - 2c2g
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« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2010, 10:01:08 AM »

Heyyy,  how can I find out who the CCGG folks are??
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« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2010, 04:19:06 AM »

Another raft of 464x results have arrived for R-L21* folks.  Here is the breakdown.
15 - 3c1g
2 - 4c
2 - 2c2g
One of the 4c is David Pike. David is just near me on the Alex Williamson chart. David is also L69-.
The second one is of Norwegian origin.
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« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2010, 10:24:46 AM »

Can anything be made out of 464X results?

I know 464X=CCgg has been found in numbers of the Irish sea model members.
I'm wondering how it fairs outside of this group?

It seems CCCg has been mentioned as a model for R-L21.
I'm wondering if this is still the case?
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R-DF13**(L21>DF13)
M42+, M45+, M526+, M74+, M89+, M9+, M94+, P108+, P128+, P131+, P132+, P133+, P134+, P135+, P136+, P138+, P139+, P14+, P140+, P141+, P143+, P145+, P146+, P148+, P149+, P151+, P157+, P158+, P159+, P160+, P161+, P163+, P166+, P187+, P207+, P224+, P226+, P228+, P229+, P230+, P231+, P232+, P233+, P234+, P235+, P236+, P237+, P238+, P239+, P242+, P243+, P244+, P245+, P280+, P281+, P282+, P283+, P284+, P285+, P286+, P294+, P295+, P297+, P305+, P310+, P311+, P312+, P316+, M173+, M269+, M343+, P312+, L21+, DF13+, M207+, P25+, L11+, L138+, L141+, L15+, L150+, L16+, L23+, L51+, L52+, M168+, M173+, M207+, M213+, M269+, M294+, M299+, M306+, M343+, P69+, P9.1+, P97+, PK1+, SRY10831.1+, L21+, L226-, M37-, M222-, L96-, L193-, L144-, P66-, SRY2627-, M222-, DF49-, L371-, DF41-, L513-, L555-, L1335-, L1406-, Z251-, L526-, L130-, L144-, L159.2-, L192.1-, L193-, L195-, L96-, DF21-, Z255-, DF23-, DF1-, Z253-, M37-, M65-, M73-, M18-, M126-, M153-, M160-, P66-

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« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2010, 10:48:58 AM »

I think it's always the case, the modal RL21 would be cccg.
But it would be interresting to know what percentage and also those who are cccc.

I am ccgg, but not Irish  among my ancestors, only french
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« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2010, 04:22:46 PM »

It seems CCCg has been mentioned as a model for R-L21.
I'm wondering if this is still the case?
I think that 3c1g is the most common result for R-L21, but most people don't test for it and it doesn't show up on the FTDNA Y results screens so it is hard to know for sure.
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« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2010, 04:58:50 PM »

I think it's always the case, the modal RL21 would be cccg.
But it would be interresting to know what percentage and also those who are cccc.

I am ccgg, but not Irish  among my ancestors, only french

And you are L159-, too.
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« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2010, 09:03:13 PM »

We have an R-L159.2+ Schneider from Montbronn,  who is CCgg.
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R-DF13**(L21>DF13)
M42+, M45+, M526+, M74+, M89+, M9+, M94+, P108+, P128+, P131+, P132+, P133+, P134+, P135+, P136+, P138+, P139+, P14+, P140+, P141+, P143+, P145+, P146+, P148+, P149+, P151+, P157+, P158+, P159+, P160+, P161+, P163+, P166+, P187+, P207+, P224+, P226+, P228+, P229+, P230+, P231+, P232+, P233+, P234+, P235+, P236+, P237+, P238+, P239+, P242+, P243+, P244+, P245+, P280+, P281+, P282+, P283+, P284+, P285+, P286+, P294+, P295+, P297+, P305+, P310+, P311+, P312+, P316+, M173+, M269+, M343+, P312+, L21+, DF13+, M207+, P25+, L11+, L138+, L141+, L15+, L150+, L16+, L23+, L51+, L52+, M168+, M173+, M207+, M213+, M269+, M294+, M299+, M306+, M343+, P69+, P9.1+, P97+, PK1+, SRY10831.1+, L21+, L226-, M37-, M222-, L96-, L193-, L144-, P66-, SRY2627-, M222-, DF49-, L371-, DF41-, L513-, L555-, L1335-, L1406-, Z251-, L526-, L130-, L144-, L159.2-, L192.1-, L193-, L195-, L96-, DF21-, Z255-, DF23-, DF1-, Z253-, M37-, M65-, M73-, M18-, M126-, M153-, M160-, P66-

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« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2010, 05:15:50 AM »

I think it's always the case, the modal RL21 would be cccg.
But it would be interresting to know what percentage and also those who are cccc.

I am ccgg, but not Irish  among my ancestors, only french

And you are L159-, too.
Yes
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« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2010, 02:56:21 AM »

I understood cccg to be distinct from ccgc.  Are these two being lumped together as 3c1g?
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« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2010, 04:07:39 AM »

I understood cccg to be distinct from ccgc.  Are these two being lumped together as 3c1g?

I'm 15c-15c-16c-17g

Somebody who is 15c-15c-16g-17c would be different from me but that distinction would only be visible with the 464X test otherwise we would both be just 15-15-16-17.

The sequence is simply placed in numerical order
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« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2010, 12:52:10 PM »

check out the DYS464Xccgg for a summary

http://www.familytreedna.com/public/DYS464x%20ccgg/default.aspx
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Pos: Z245 L459 L21 DF13**
Neg: DF23 L513 L96 L144 Z255 Z253 DF21 DF41 (Z254 P66 P314.2 M37 M222  L563 L526 L226 L195 L193 L192.1 L159.2 L130 DF63 DF5 DF49)
WTYNeg: L555 L371 (L9/L10 L370 L302/L319.1 L554 L564 L577 P69 L626 L627 L643 L679)
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