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Maliclavelli
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« on: August 30, 2014, 06:01:49 AM »


EK3WY Risso Pra, Genova, Italy
14 23 14 11 11 11 12 13 13 13 13 29 16 9 9 11 11 26 15 19 30 15 16 16 17 11 11 19 23 15 12 12 10 11 12 23 10 13 12 12 13 30 24
TN2ZH Beacham England
14 23 14 11 11 11 12 14 12 14 13 30 17 9 9 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 16 16 17 11 11 19 23 15 13 12 12 11 12 23 10 13 12 12 12 30 24

These two haplotypes are surely linked and Beacham sheds some doubt on the DYS461=10 of Risso, which couldn't be from 11 but a multistep mutation from 12. Then the idea I had of Risso as an L23 ancestor of the "Balkan cluster" doesn't fit anymore, also for DYS441=13 and not 14 and DYS446=13 in Risso and even 12 in Beacham. It would be interesting a SNP test. We shouldn't exclude, seen that Risso is a Ligurian, some form of U152.
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YDNA: R-S12460


MtDNA: K1a1b1e

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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2014, 06:23:40 AM »

Hi. Have you any news of this family? Is it linked to you?

George Phillip BEACHAM             
b. 15 Jun 1894 St. George, Washington, Utah, USA
m. 4 Apr 1918 Parowan, Iron, Utah, USA
d. 12 Oct 1951 Cedar City, Iron, Utah, USA

George William BEACHAM   
b. 3 Nov 1872 St. George, Washington, Utah, USA
m. 20 Sep 1893 St. George, Washington, Utah, USA
d. 17 Jun 1947 St. George, Washington, Utah, USA

Jacob BEACHAM          
b. 20 Aug 1831 Midsomer-Norton, Somerset, England
d. 22 Dec 1893 St. George, Washington, Utah, USA

Philip BEACHAM       
b. ABT 1805 <Midsomer-Norton, Somerset, England>

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