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« on: October 16, 2009, 09:35:50 PM »

This has been an interesting Friday evening!

I just found a new R-L21* on the Y-DNA Results page of the Polish DNA Project, Briskey (Brzyski), kit #N23447:

http://www.familytreedna.com/public/polish/default.aspx?section=yresults

Of course, I am trying to recruit him for the R-L21 Plus Project.
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« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2009, 04:40:51 PM »

What do you have all these projects on Browser Speed Dial????  LOL
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Pos: Z245 L459 L21 DF13**
Neg: DF23 L513 L96 L144 Z255 Z253 DF21 DF41 (Z254 P66 P314.2 M37 M222  L563 L526 L226 L195 L193 L192.1 L159.2 L130 DF63 DF5 DF49)
WTYNeg: L555 L371 (L9/L10 L370 L302/L319.1 L554 L564 L577 P69 L626 L627 L643 L679)
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« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2009, 04:49:43 PM »

What do you have all these projects on Browser Speed Dial????  LOL

I don't normally look at the Polish DNA Project because, honestly, I don't expect to see much R-L21* there. But I was looking at the Haplotree/My Matches page of one of our members and discovered that he had two Polish matches there. When I went through our project's list, I found that only one of our members (Wissoker) had identified Poland as his place of paternal origin, so I new there was someone new in town, so to speak. That's when I went over to the Polish DNA Project to scout it out.

I do check the French Heritage Project and Germany Project pretty much every weekday, however. They've been good sources in the past. Occasionally I check out a few others, but not all the time.
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« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2009, 04:56:36 PM »

Thats how I found my GD9 match was due to my looking in other projects. Everyone is not in Ysearch. I have gotten really good at haplotype variance testing.  I have a unpublished 67/GD3 inside of FtDNA somewhere but he may not be in the same Hg is the problem and FtDNA can discuss anything about it, of course!
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Pos: Z245 L459 L21 DF13**
Neg: DF23 L513 L96 L144 Z255 Z253 DF21 DF41 (Z254 P66 P314.2 M37 M222  L563 L526 L226 L195 L193 L192.1 L159.2 L130 DF63 DF5 DF49)
WTYNeg: L555 L371 (L9/L10 L370 L302/L319.1 L554 L564 L577 P69 L626 L627 L643 L679)
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« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2009, 07:24:23 AM »

Briskey (YSearch R6D26) has joined the R-L21 Plus Project, but he says his ancestor was a German Mennonite, so I put him in the Germany category on our Y-DNA Results page.

Briskey's haplotype is fairly unique, even at 12 markers. He only has a few exact 12-marker matches. Interestingly, in YSearch his only exact 12-marker match is Polish, Banaszak, YSearch KVKKJ.

Briskey has no close matches at 25 or 37 markers. He hasn't upgraded to 67 markers yet. Unfortunately, Banaszak only has a 12-marker haplotype, so we don't yet know how the match between him and Briskey would fare at 25, 37, or 67.
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« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2009, 09:13:02 AM »

Thats how I found my GD9 match was due to my looking in other projects. Everyone is not in Ysearch. I have gotten really good at haplotype variance testing.  I have a unpublished 67/GD3 inside of FtDNA somewhere but he may not be in the same Hg is the problem and FtDNA can discuss anything about it, of course!
Mjost, you've been very helpful in turning up and recruiting new L21* folks.  Thank you.  Of course, like-wise, RMS2 must be living on some of these other project web sites.  I'm envisioning him with kind of multiple web site web browser "auto loader" add-on and and special "ctrl-F r1b1b2a1b5" macro function key on his keyboard.

Great work all!
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« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2009, 03:48:54 PM »

Its amazing how in this hobby that so much is owed by so many to so few as Churchill once said. 
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« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2009, 06:01:01 PM »

“Of course, like-wise, RMS2 must be living on some of these other project web sites. I'm envisioning him with kind of multiple web site web browser "auto loader" add-on and and special "ctrl-F r1b1b2a1b5" macro function key on his keyboard.”

I think we can all agree that Rich is very dedicated to this hobby. I knew that the first time he sent me a personal message at DNAForums in October 2007, the old days of this hobby. That personal message made me feel part of a community, and I have great respect for the time, effort, and patience he has exhibited at that forum and this forum. I could not have done what he did day, after day, after day back then.

“Great work all!” indeed.
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