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Maliclavelli
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« on: September 06, 2009, 04:08:39 AM »

I launch a new play. By using the Jim Cullen’s World Haplogroup & Haplo-I Subclade predictor (http://members.bex.net/jtcullen515/haplotest.htm),  the player tries to guess which is the subclade who generated all the European R1b1b2-s. I think having won, but I’m waiting for other slot machine  bets.

KV7Y2  (Tognoni)
Haplogroups and probabilities are as follows:
R1b-E.Europe =>69%  R1b-S26 =>17%  R1b-S28 =>10%  R1b =>1%  R1b-Ub =>1%  R1b-Frisian =>1%
 
QUSV8 (Kyrgyzstan)
Haplogroups and probabilities are as follows:
R1b-S26 =>24%  R1b =>21%  R1b-Ub =>18%  R1b-S.Irish =>15%  R1b-S21-Scottish =>11%  R1b-E.Europe =>7%  R1b-Irish/Continental =>2%  R1b-S21-Scottish2 =>1%
 
N4Y6V (Cervino)
Haplogroups and probabilities are as follows:
R1b-S28 =>51%  R1b-S26 =>12%  R1b-Ub =>9%  R1b-N.Irish =>8%  R1b-M222 (NW Irish) =>8%  R1b-S.Irish =>5%  R1b-C.Europe =>3%  L , L2 =>2%  R1b =>2%
 
5VU5V (Fiozzo)
Haplogroups and probabilities are as follows:
R1b-S28 =>39%  R1b-N.Irish =>23%  R1b-M222 (NW Irish) =>23%  R1b-E.Europe
=>7%  R1b-Ub =>4%  R1b-S26 =>2%  R1b-North/South 1 =>1%
 
MKGW2 (Volkov)
Haplogroups and probabilities are as follows:
R1b-Frisian4 =>37%  R1b-E.Europe =>29%  R1b-Irish/Continental =>14%  R1b-S26 =>11%  R1b-S21-Scottish2 =>3%  R1b-S28 =>3%  R1b =>1%  R1b-S.Irish =>1% 
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« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2009, 08:10:43 AM »

This is a second game I played:

APNEG (Hassan, Pakistan)
Haplogroups and probabilities are as follows:
R1b-E.Europe =>71%  R1b-S26 =>11%  R1b-Ub =>8%  R1b-North/South 2 =>5%  R1b-Irish/Continental =>3%

2DMW6 (Riquelme Contreras)
Haplogroups and probabilities are as follows:
R1b-S26 =>63%  R1b-Ub =>23%  R1b-S21-Scottish2 =>7%  R1b-Irish/Continental =>3%  R1b-E.Europe =>3%
 
Modal Ashkenazi R1b1b2-L23-
Haplogroups and probabilities are as follows:
R1b-S28 =>59%  R1b-E.Europe =>20%  R1b-Ub =>6%  R1b =>5%  R1b-North/South 1 =>5%  R1b-N.Irish =>2%  R1b-M222 (NW Irish) =>2%

EBWSZ (Ciulla, Arberesh)
Haplogroups and probabilities are as follows:
R1b-S28 =>56%  R1b =>19%  R1b-E.Europe =>10%  R1b-IrishIII =>6%  R1b-N.Irish =>2%  R1b-M222 (NW Irish) =>2%  R1b-Ub =>2%  R1b-S26 =>2%
 
T75CF (Crenson)
Haplogroups and probabilities are as follows:
R1b-N.Irish =>38%  R1b-M222 (NW Irish) =>38%  R1b-S28 =>13%  R1b-Ub =>5%  R1b-S26 =>5%   

It is very strange that Crenson, an Englishmen R-L23-, matches North Irish who are R-L21+, many SNPs downstream. I think we must hypothesize that climate or something else influences the STRs' mutations and that there is a convergence in a country also for different Hgs.
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« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2009, 10:22:39 AM »

T75CF is Collins and not Crenson, but nothing changes:

EVQXJ (Crenson)
Haplogroups and probabilities are as follows:
R1b-N.Irish =>22%  R1b-M222 (NW Irish) =>22%  R1b-North/South 1 =>16%  R1b-E.Europe =>13%  R1b-S28 =>13%  R1b =>7%  R1b-S26 =>4%  R1b-Ub =>2% 
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« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2009, 01:16:01 PM »

Here is what I got for myself (Stevens HX9ZF):

Haplogroups and probabilities are as follows:
R1b-Frisian3 =>33%  R1b =>28%  R1b-Frisian =>25%  R1b-S.Irish =>6%  R1b-S21* =>4%  R1b-C.Europe =>3%  

That is not surprising, really. When I got my first 37-marker results back in 2006, almost everyone thought I would be what was called "S21+" back then and U106+ now because my haplotype is kind of "Frisian" looking.

But a key element is that I have 492=12 rather than 492=13.

So, my haplotype just kind of accidentally resembles the Frisian Modal Haplotype.
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« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2009, 01:41:33 PM »

But if my theory is right (and I am very serious on this: if I was Ken Nordtvedt I'd try to put everything in mathematics) your paternal branch had lived mostly on the Continent (Belgium, Netherlands) before reaching the British Isles and not so far.
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