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« on: July 30, 2009, 05:48:02 PM »

Maybe I should wait to say anything about this, but we now have a Czech R-L21* in FTDNA's database. I don't know who he is yet, and he hasn't joined the R-L21 Plus Project yet, but he appears on the "Haplotree/My Matches" page of at least one of our members (and probably some others, too).

I couldn't find him in the Czech DNA project, so I have emailed FTDNA and asked them to send him an invitation to join the R-L21 Plus Project.

I sure hope he does!
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« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2009, 06:25:35 PM »

Maybe I should wait to say anything about this, but we now have a Czech R-L21* in FTDNA's database. I don't know who he is yet, and he hasn't joined the R-L21 Plus Project yet, but he appears on the "Haplotree/My Matches" page of at least one of our members (and probably some others, too).

I couldn't find him in the Czech DNA project, so I have emailed FTDNA and asked them to send him an invitation to join the R-L21 Plus Project.

I sure hope he does!


I have kind of been watching for this for awhile because I have noticed Czech email addresses among the matches on the "Y-DNA Matches" pages of some of our members. With so many Czechs on our members' Y-DNA matches pages, I figured it couldn't be too long before some of them popped up as L21+.
 
Here's the first . . . of many, I hope!
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« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2009, 05:30:08 PM »

I have not heard from this new R-L21* yet, but he does show up on a bunch of the "Haplotree/My Matches" pages of members of the R-L21 Plus Project.
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« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2009, 09:26:02 AM »

Okay, apparently there are at least two Czech R-L21*s, one tested by FTDNA and a second by Genomac in Prague. I learned of the second one through email communication with a Czech guy I know who participates in a Czech online dna forum. This second Czech doesn't know any English and is very reluctant to release his personal and ancestral information. I'm trying to get at least something for the R-L21* Map and to confirm that he is indeed L21+.

Guess this second one is just hear-say for now, but my source is pretty knowledgable and very involved in genetic genealogy in the Czech Republic.
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« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2009, 11:25:25 PM »

We finally have a Czech R-L21* member of the R-L21 Plus Project: Dvorak, whose ancestor Phillip, born about 1800, came from Bohemia. The exact town or village of his birth is unknown, so I put the placemark in Prague, with a note to that effect, on the R-L21* European Continent Map. No Ysearch entry yet.
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« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2009, 11:43:42 PM »

Bravo! Thanks for the update, Rich! I was wondering about those Czech folks.
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« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2009, 12:37:01 AM »

Bravo! Thanks for the update, Rich! I was wondering about those Czech folks.

I wish more of them would do the Deep Clade-R thing.
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« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2009, 06:53:51 PM »

We just added a second man to the Czech Republic category of the R-L21 Plus Project: Goblirsch, YSearch X3JZK, whose ancestor came from Zemschen (modern Třemešné) in Bohemia.

It's nice to get some results from Eastern Europe!
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« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2009, 08:21:25 PM »

Wow, Rich! That's number two in the Czech Republic, and both are Bohemian!
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« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2009, 08:31:32 PM »

Wow, Rich! That's number two in the Czech Republic, and both are Bohemian!

I'm excited about it, too. I hope we start to get some more Czech L21+ results.

I think I'll have a Pilsner Urquell or three in their honor this weekend.

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« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2009, 08:58:13 PM »

Or Budweiser

the Czech one of course ;)
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« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2009, 09:12:43 PM »

Or Budweiser

the Czech one of course ;)

Actually, I enjoy the American Budweiser on a pretty regular basis! It tastes good, and it has the added attraction of being inexpensive. My favorite local Italian restaurant (run by real Italians, by the way: http://www.mycastiglias.com/) has it on draft. It is excellent with their pizza!

(The little redheaded witch in that Halloween 2009 photo on the restaurant's web site is my daughter Anna.)
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« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2009, 09:34:47 PM »

Draft American beer is not a product you're likely to find around here so I can't really comment, we call these larger but I'm more of a bitter man myself, if it's hot though I'd plump for a bottled Czech beer any day of the week rather than the lagers that come out of our taps.

Nice picture of your daughter, mine are a little older now but not by much.

Any how cheers to the Czech result and here’s looking forward to seeing many more from his part of the world
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« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2009, 10:49:00 PM »

We just added a second man to the Czech Republic category of the R-L21 Plus Project: Goblirsch, YSearch X3JZK, whose ancestor came from Zemschen (modern Třemešné) in Bohemia.
It's nice to get some results from Eastern Europe!
Cool.  I wish I could find some male relatives on my mother's Kulhanek, Kovarik, Petrovec, Bednar, Svejda, Shestak(Sestak) and Vodvarek side.

I wonder if R-L21+ got there from around the north edge of the Carpathians, the south edge and Hungarian Plains, or from the West from Bavaria?
http://www.euratlas.com/Atlasphys/Countries.htm
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« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2009, 10:57:32 PM »

Or Budweiser the Czech one of course ;)
Actually, I enjoy the American Budweiser on a pretty regular basis!....
Rich, my brother-in-law, the Anheiser-Busch distributor would be proud of you.  (A great business, by the way.)  Bad news on the American part though. They were recently purchase by InBev, a Belgium company.  Everything is still brewed in Florida, St. Louis, etc., but ...
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« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2009, 11:44:46 PM »

We just added a second man to the Czech Republic category of the R-L21 Plus Project: Goblirsch, YSearch X3JZK, whose ancestor came from Zemschen (modern Třemešné) in Bohemia.

It's nice to get some results from Eastern Europe!
I didn't realize you could get there from Aberdeen.
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« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2009, 10:13:11 AM »

I didn't realize you could get there from Aberdeen.

Hopefully, even the diehard "out-of-the-Isles" crew is starting to see the light. There aren't too many still arguing that line, are there?
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« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2009, 10:54:46 AM »

Oh, there is at least one in particular. The poor soul had some choice words for my friend GoldenHind. He knows what I am talking about!
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« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2009, 02:32:24 PM »

Oh, there is at least one in particular. The poor soul had some choice words for my friend GoldenHind. He knows what I am talking about!
And a very vociferous and opinionated one at that.
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