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Maliclavelli
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« on: January 11, 2014, 04:54:28 AM »

        At last I decided to use my Geno 2.0 kit for my relative Federighi and it has been posted yesterday to Houston (Texas).
        MHK97 Federighi Santa Maria a Monte, Pisa, Italy
        12 25 14 10 11 14 11 12 11 13 13 29 16 9 10 11 11 24 15 20 29 15 15 16 16 10 10 19 23 16 12 12 11 12 12 23 10 13 12 12 13 30 24
        TKCMA Urovish Poland
        12 24 14 10 11 14 11 12 12 13 14 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 15 15 16 12 10 19 23 16 16 17 18 38 39 12 12 12 11 12 12 23 10 13 12 12 12 30 24 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 11 10 21 23 16 10 12 12 14 8 22 20 12 11 13 10 11 12 12 9 11 15 9 16 12 10 12 12 11 10 12 12 11 10 26 26 19 12

        The closest to Federighi is
        1 14 13 29 25 11 13 12 11,14 12 11 15 20 16 16 23 11 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 M343
        1 of 165 Nicaragua [Mestizo] Admixed Latin America
        at a GD of 1: DYS391=11 instead of 10 and H4=10+1.
        1 14 13 29 25 11 13 12 11,14 12 12 15 20 16 18 23 11 20 22 14 14 17 10 - >>
        1 of 162 London, United Kingdom [English] Eurasian - European - Western European Europe
        This sample from UK has DYS458=18.
        The other values (20 22 14 14 17 10) aren't tested on Federighi.
        Other closer values to investigate are these:
        14 13 29 25 11 13 12 11,14 12 12 15 19 23 11 4 >>
        14 13 29 25 11 13 12 11,14 12 12 15 20 23 12 3 >>
        14 13 29 25 11 13 12 11,14 12 11 15 20 23 11 1 >>
        --------------------------------------------------------------
        The closest to Urovish and all the Jewish R-M269 cluster are these:
        14 13 29 24 10 14 12 11,14 12 12 15 19 17 16 23 11 1 >>
        1 14 13 29 24 10 14 12 11,14 12 12 15 19 17 16 23 11 17 22 13 12 18 11 - >>
        This is a close match. About these values (17 22 13 12 18 11 )
        DYS576= 17 (Urovish 17)
        DYS481= 22 (Urovish 22)
        DYS549= 13 (Urovish 12)
        DYS533= 12 (Urovish 12)
        DYS570= 18 (Urovish 18)
        DYS643= 11 (Urovish 10)
        there are two differences: DYS549 and DYS643, anyway close: difference of 1.
        Other close haplotypes are these:
        1 of 100 Budapest, Hungary [Hungarian] Eurasian - European - South-Eastern European Europe
        14 13 29 24 10 14 12 11,14 12 12 15 19 16 17 23 11 1 >>
        1 14 13 29 24 10 14 12 11,14 12 12 15 19 16 17 23 11 17 22 12 12 18 10

        1 of 84 Vilnius, Lithuania [Lithuanian] Eurasian - European - Eastern European Europe
        It is very likely that these haplotypes belong to Jews, seen also the places of origin, i.e. where the most part of the Ashkenazim lived.
        But if we change only the values of DYS456 and DYD458, we have these samples:

        14 13 29 24 10 13 12 11,14 12 12 15 19 16 17 23 11 1 >>
        14 13 29 24 10 14 12 11,14 12 12 15 19 16 17 23 12 1 >>
        1 14 13 29 24 10 14 12 11,14 12 12 15 19 16 17 23 12 19 24 12 12 18 10 - >>
        1 of 244 Poznan, Poland [Polish] Eurasian - European - Eastern European Europe
        They seem close, but the 6 markers added are very different:
        19 24 12 12 18 10
        as to
        17 22 12 12 18 10
        Which are the conclusions? If these haplotypes from YHRD are R-M269+/L150+/PF7558/62/63+, the variance of the European clusters is higher than the Jewish ones, i.e. the Jewish haplotype (which is only one with a few mutations happened in a range if a few centuries) is introgressed from European people.
        The test on Federighi will try to answer about the origin of this European haplogroup, whose we already have a few samples from the Balkans to the Isles
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