For the early history of the Young's see here
http://www.worldfamilies.net/forum/index.php?topic=9620.0FOR GRANGEE YOUNGS SEE THIS LINK
http://www.worldfamilies.net/forum/index.php?topic=9619.0ALSO THIS FOR A JOSEPH YOUNG NOT YET PLACED
http://www.worldfamilies.net/forum/index.php?topic=9547THE FAMILY OF JOHN & LETITIA YOUNG
ANDREW M 1828 NANCY THOMPSON IN ARDKEEN COI
CAPT. DAVID BORN C 1806 MARRIED ELIZA McGEE MAY 27th 1829 IN GLASTRY
MARY MARRIED JAMES McGILTON JULY 2nd 1830 IN GLASTRY
SEE THIS LINK
http://www.worldfamilies.net/forum/index.php?topic=9947.0JOHN MAR. ELIZA DILL; MARRIED OCT. 30th1830 IN GLASTRY
AGNES/HUGH McCLEMENT MARRIED IN 1835 GLASTRY http://www.worldfamilies.net/forum/index.php?topic=8994.0
LETITIA M HUGH REID 1838
SEE THIS LINK
http://www.worldfamilies.net/forum/index.php?topic=10290.0JAMES YOUNG born 5th March 1819 married Mary CLINT Ardkeen 2nd August 1845
SEE THIS LINK FOR THEIR FAMILY
http://www.worldfamilies.net/forum/index.php?topic=10584.0Family of Captain David Young and Betty McGee
Capt. David Young had 3 brothers, that we know of,
Andrew Young, James and John Young. & 3 SISTERS MARY, AGNES & LETITIA
Sister Agnes m 1839 Glastry Pres. Ch. Hugh McClements details with brother Andrew below.
see this link for Andrew's family AND SISTER AGNES YOUNG & Australian link
http://www.worldfamilies.net/forum/index.php?topic=8854.0See this link for John's family
http://www.worldfamilies.net/forum/index.php?topic=9543.new#newFamily of Captain David Young and Betty McGEE
1841 SCOTLAND CENSUS
DAVID YOUNG AGE 30 ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR 1811 BORN IRELAND
CIVIL PARISH AYRSHIRE
ADDRESS SHIP JAMES CATHCART OCCUPATION SEAMAN
PARISH NO 578
HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS CREW
JAS AMBROSE AGE 20
JAMES DRYSDALE 17
DAVID YOUNG 30
1861 SCOTLAND CENSUS
DAVID YOUNG AGE 52 EST. YEAR OF BIRTH 1811 BORN IRELAND
REG NO 892 REG. DISTRICT MOCHRUM COUNTY WIGTOWNSHIRE
OCCUPATION MASTER ED SHIP FAIRY QUEEN
CAPT.DAVID YOUNG OWNED THIS SHIP [FAMILY KNOWLEDGE] & see 1866 Bassetts
Directory.
CREW:
ANDREW YOUNG 30
HENRY YOUNG 18
[HIS 2 SONS]
LINE 1 ROLL: CSSCT1861_150
Capt. David YOUNG Ballyculter & Ballyphilip of Ratalla; owner of 'Fairy Queen' & master of 'The Witch of the Wave'; husband of Eliza Jane (Betty); father of Andrew b. 1830 in Strangford (married Jane Maguire; died of cholera 1866) & Mary Jane b. 1832 (married Robert Drysdale) & William b. 1837 & David b. 1839 (married Catherine Gilmore then Mrs. Lucy Gee (nee Corry) ) & Letitia b. 1843 (married William J. McNamara) & Henry b. 1845 ( married Susanna Clint ) & John b. 1846 (married Elizabeth Fullerton) & Francis b. 1849 ( married Ann Clarke) & Robert b. 1855 (married Mary Ann Watson) PR; Lena McVea
Thanks to Lindsay Young for the following information.
Transcript for RAMSEY, Shipping register, 1824-1840, Folio 144
Vessel name WELLINGTON Official number
Port of registry Ramsey Number/year 8/1836 Registry date 3/5/1836
Type Re-registered at this port Previous registry 3/1832
Built Ramsey, 1832 Builder Propulsion, Sail Dimensions 39.8 x 13.5 x 7.8 ft, Rig Smack, Gross tonnage 33 tons, Masts 1, Register tonnage 33 tons
Owners
Name Address Occupation Shares
Thomas Fargher Ramsey Farmer 8 Subscribing
Robert Kerruish Maughold Farmer 8 Subscribing
Robert Corkill Maughold Farmer 8 Subscribing
Margaret Kermode Maughold Widow & Executrix of John Kermode 24
Jane Kermode Maughold Widow & Executrix of Robert Kermode 8
Thomas Logan Ramsey Cooper 8
Masters Name Address Date
Jno Kerruish
3/5/1836
William Corkill
14/7/1836
Robt Drysdale
6/12/1838
Transactions
1 Entry: 5/12/1838
Bill of sale: 4/12/1838
Thomas Fargher, 8 shares
Thomas Lagan, 8 shares
Robert Kerruish, 8 shares
Robert Corkill, 8 shares
Margt Kermode, 24 shares
Jane Kermode, 8 shares
Sold 64 shares to
Robert Drysdale, Strangford, Co Down, Ireland, Mariner, 12 shares
David Young, Strangford, Co Down, Ireland, Mariner, 12 shares
Robert Catchart, Strangford, Co Down, Ireland, Mariner, 12 shares
Francis Bailey, Strangford, Co Down, Ireland, Farmer, 12 shares
Hugh Thompson, Strangford, Co Down, Ireland, Farmer, 16 shares
Closure
Date Closure 25/2/1839
Registration transferred to Strangford, 1839.
From the above sale it looks like the Young's and Drysdale's have always had strong ties with the sea. Robert Drysdale was the master of the ship to bring it back from the Isle of Man. Capt. David Young's daughter and Capt. Robert Drysdale's son married. There also seems to be a strong tie with the Thompson family as David's brother Andrew married Agnes Thompson.
The Bailies and Cathcarts also appear in connection with the Young's.
Ballyhalbert old Graveyard
REID
Erect. by William Reid of Portavogie in memory of his son William who at the age of 22 was drowned with James CATHCART & Robert PIPER when returning from the Green Isle [off Portavogie; south of the harbour] where they had been fowling on the 3d day of Feb. 1831.
Also his son Alexander who drowned in Kingstown, America, on the 14th Oct. 1842 aged 37 yrs.
Also his wife Mary Reid alias MILLER who departed this life April the 29th 1843 aged 53 yrs.
Also above William REID who died 3rd July 1847 aged 64 yrs. BORN 1783
Capt. David Young owned a sailing ship called the Fairy Queen see 1866 Bassett's
Directory, he also was the master of:-
The Witch of the Wave and The James Cathcart.
Capt. David Young was the founder of the CLOUGHEY LIFEBOAT his sons and sons-in- law and their descendants made many valiant rescues in the last century.
The McNamaras from his daughter Letitia, the Drysdale's from daughter Mary Jane and his sons Coxwains' 1st cox. Francis, John and Robert and their descendants, the Young's.
Newtownards Chronicle & County Down Observer
May 1, 1909
Cloughey Lifeboat - for saving the crew of the French three-masted sailing ship Croisette on 14th November last, on the South Rock, the following awards have been made by the French Government - Gold medals of the second class to Mr. R Young, coxswain of the Cloughey Lifeboat, and Mr. E. Cupman, chief boatman; silver medals for the first class to Messrs. J Young, and Donnan; silver medals of the second class to Messrs. D Young, R Young, Beggs, Drysdale, Jones, Donnan, W Donnan, Palmer and Namara, seamen; and Solway, Rose and Taylor, coast guards. The decorations have been awarded on the recommendation of Chevalier John Burke, consular agent for France in Belfast, who, it is understood, has made similar recommendations in the case of the salvors of the French barque Surcouf, which went ashore at Tara on 25th February last.
See this link for more information on the Cloughey Lifeboat now replaced with Portaferry.
http://www.portaferrylifeboat.com/history/history.htmKIRCUBBIN PRES CHURCH
MAGEE
Erect. to the mem. of John Magee who died 6th June 1819 aged 16 yrs.
His sister Jane died 18th July 1823 aged 25.
Their father John died 17th Feb. 1826 aged 72yrs.
Marg. wife to John sen. died 22nd Nov. 1847 aged 81.
Margaret their daughter died 28th July 1865 aged 71 yrs.
Mary Ann their daughter died 22th July 1865 Mar. 1872 aged 71 yrs.
Also their daug. Rachel wife of Charles COFFEY who died 12TH July 1873 aged 69 Yrs.
Residents of a house 6 in Mill Row (Kircubbin, Down)1901
Magee Annabella 65 Female Head of Family Church of Ireland Co Down, Ireland Householder Read only Widow B 1836
Glastry Presbyterian Church
David Young M 1829 Eliza McGee
witnesses James Glen & Nancy Adair
1851 Down, Ards Up., Ardkeen, Ratallagh
Young, David, head, age na, m. na
Young, Betty, wife, age na, m. na
Young, Andrew, son, age 21*
Young, William, son age 14*
Young, Letitia, dau, age 7
Young, Henry, son, age 6**
Young, John, son, age 4
Young David b1839 married 1844
Young Robert b after 1851
Ellen [not sure]
Ireland Marriages, 1619-1898
child: Ellen Young
record title: Ireland Marriages, 1619-1898
groom's name: William McDowell
bride's name: Ellen Young
marriage date: 05 Dec 1850
marriage place: Downpatrick, Down, Ire
groom's father's name: Thomas McDowell
bride's father's name: David Young
indexing project (batch) number: M70202-4
system origin: Ireland-VR
source film number: 101315
SON ANDREW
Andrew b 1830 born in Strangford
groom's name: Andrew Young
groom's birth date: 1832
groom's age: 24
bride's name: Jane McGuire
bride's birth date: 1835
bride's age: 21
marriage date: 25 Feb 1856
marriage place: Ardkeen, Down, Ireland
groom's father's name: David Young
bride's father's name: Daniel McGuire
groom's marital status: Single
bride's marital status: Single
indexing project (batch) number: M70214-4
system origin: Ireland-EASy
source film number: 101375
A herring fisherman of Cloghy who caught cholera in Oct 1866, David Young informant on death certificate DR* (7/12/1912); Lena McVea
DAUG. MARY JANE
Mary Jane [Andrew's twin]
groom's name: Robert Drysdle
groom's birth date: 1832
groom's age: 19
bride's name: Mary Jane Young
bride's birth date: 1832
bride's age: 19
marriage date: 16 Oct 1851
marriage place: Ardkeen, Down, Ire
groom's father's name: Robert Drysdle
bride's father's name: David Young
indexing project (batch) number: M70204-4
system origin: Ireland-VR
source film number: 101325
witnesses were Thomas McCappin & Andrew Young CR; Lena McVea
SON WILLIAM
William YOUNG BORN 1837 M ELIZA QUINN C1855
Is this him on the 1863 Griffith's Ratalla Valuation ?
William Young Landlord Jane Thompson House and garden 1 rood 10 perches rateable value £1-5-0
WILLIAM & ELIZA'S DAUGHTER
6/11/1876 Mary Jane Young m William Devoy of Ballygraffin son of William Devoy, father William Young Ratalla at Ardkeen. COI
1891 CENSUS SCOTLAND
DEVOY, Wm Head Married M 33 1858 Bricklayers Labourer
BORN Ireland N/A
DEVOY, Mary Jane Wife Married F 31 1860
BORN Ireland N/A
DEVOY, Eliza Jane Daughter Unmarried F 14 1877 General Servant Ireland N/A
DEVOY, Wm John Son M 12 1879 Scholar Coatbridge
Lanarkshire N/A
DEVOY, Mary Ann Daughter F 10 1881 Scholar
Coatbridge Lanarkshire N/A
DEVOY, Ellen Daughter F 8 1883 Scholar Coatbridge Lanarkshire N/A
DEVOY, Christina Daughter F 5 1886 Coatbridge Lanarkshire N/A
DEVOY, Margaret Daughter F 2 1889 Coatbridge Lanarkshire N/A
DEVOY, David Son M 0 (3 MS) 1891 Coatbridge Lanarkshire /A
Piece: 652 Folio: Page:11 Registration District: Coatbridge
Civil Parish: Old Monkland Municipal Borough:
Address: Bank Street, Old Monkland County: Lanarkshire
DEATH CERT OF MARY JANE NEE YOUNG DEVOY
Died @ 2.40 pm. 2nd Feb. 1946 age 91 yrs, widow of William Devoy bricklayer labourer of Kirk St. Coatbridge Scotland. BORN 1855
FATHER William Young fisherman Ratalla, Ireland
MOTHER Eliza WATSON nee QUINN.
INFORMANT DAVID DEVOY SON
WILLIAM HAS DIED AND WIDOW ELIZA HAS RE-MARRIED A WATSON.
SON DAVID
DAVID YOUNG b 1839 married 1st Catherine Gilmore 2 children; 2nd Lucy Corry widow of Robert Gee my g grandparents they had my grandfather Francis Young who married Esther Palmer, my grand- parents.
see this listing
http://www.worldfamilies.net/forum/index.php?topic=9000.0Residents of a house 17 in Ratallagh (Ardkeen, Down) 1901
Young Lucy 24 Female Daughter Church of Ireland Co Down Seamstress Read only Not Married
Young Mary 18 Female Daughter Church of Ireland Co Down Seamstress Read only Not Married
Young David 62 Male Head of Family Church of Ireland Co Down Fisherman Read only Married
Young Henry 15 Male Son Church of Ireland Co Down Agr. Labourer Read only Not Married
Young William 13 Male Son Church of Ireland Co Down Scholar Read and write Not Married
Young Alexander 26 Male Son Church of Ireland Co Down Fisherman Read only Not Married
Young David 26 Male Son Church of Ireland Co Down Fisherman Read only Not Married
Young Francis 6 Male Son Church of Ireland Co Down Scholar Cannot Read Not Married
Young John 22 Male Son Church of Ireland Co Down Fisherman Read only Not Married
Young Lucy 53 Female Wife Church of Ireland Co Down Read only Married NEE CORRY DAUGHT. OF WILLIAM & MARG. NEE REID CORRY
Newtownards Chronicle & County Down Observer
July 4, 1908
The Ards Railway - Open Letter from Father Nolan
I have a letter from Mr. David Young, fisherman, Portavogie, who writes in the name of all the fishermen of that village - “We, the fishermen of Portavogie. beg respectfully that you would interest yourself in our behalf, and bring our case before the public in the columns of the Press...We have need of a railway. There are about eighty boats belonging to Portavogie, with four or five men in each boat, totally depending on the fishing industry. We must lift our nets from two to three hours earlier than other fishermen, because if we have not landed our fish before six o’clock in the morning the fish are of no good to us. The horses cannot have them in the market in time, so we have not sufficient time to fish on that account. There are about 1,200 of a population depending on the fishing industry in and about Portavogie, and there are not twelve people in the district opposed to the railway scheme. So, dear sir, you might be so kind as to quote a few lines for us in the Press to let the public know that we want a railway line in Portavogie.” [THANKS MARY]
DAUG. LETITIA
Letitia** b 1843 married William John McNamara
Miss Letitia YOUNG
Ardkeen & Ballyphilip b. 1843, daughter of Capt. David Young; a seamstress; married William John McNamara 17 Apr 1864 in Ardkeen Church of Ireland, witnesses were William Moore & William Coulter ; mother of David John b. 1865 & Eliza Jane b. 1869 & Letitia b. 1871 & Robert b. 1874 (regd. Portaferry) CR; Lena McVea
SON HENRY
Henry b 1845 married Susanna Clint, their daughter Eliza Jane Young m James Palmer of the boat White Heather; James and Eliza's daughter Esther Palmer married Francis Young son of David and Lucy nee Corry Young.
Henry YOUNG Greyabbey a fisherman of Ratalla; b. 1845, son of Capt. David Young; married Susan(na) Clint 18 Jan 1866 in Ardkeen Church of Ireland, witnesses were Alexander Montgomery & Adam Coffey; father of David b. 12 Mar 1866 & Eliza Jane b. 2 Jul 1868 & Isabella b. 7 Sep 1870 & Robert b. 24 Apr 1873 CR; Lena McVea
SON JOHN
Coxswain John b 1846 married Elizabeth Fullerton
marriage: 05 Dec 1867 Downpatrick, Down, Ireland
parents: David Young
spouse: Elizabeth Fullerton
groom's name: John Young
bride's name: Elizabeth Fullerton
marriage date: 05 Dec 1867
marriage place: Downpatrick, Down, Ireland
groom's father's name: David Young
bride's father's name: Robert Fullerton
groom's marital status: Single
bride's marital status: Single
indexing project (batch) number: M70238-5
system origin: Ireland-EASy
source film number: 101517
John YOUNG Ballyphilip b. 1846, son of Capt. David Young;a sailor; married Eliza(beth) Fullerton 25 Dec 1867 in Ardkeen Church of Ireland, ; father of Eliza Jane b. 16 Jan 1869 & Andrew b. 1 May 1871 (regd. Portaferry) CR; Lena McVea
SON FRANCIS
1ST COXSWAIN OF CLOUGHEY LIFEBOAT
Francis Young b 1849 married Ann Clarke
Francis YOUNG . Ardkeen b. 1849, son of Capt. David Young of Ratalla ; a fisherman of Kirkistown; aged 35 married Ann Clarke 17 Jan 1884 in Ardkeen Church of Ireland , witnesses were James & Harriet Kennedy CR; Lena McVea
SON ROBERT
Coxswain Robert b 1855 married Mary Ann Watson
Robert YOUNG . Ardkeen b. 1855, son of Capt. David Young of Ratalla ; married Mary Ann Watson 9 Jun 1877 in Ardkeen Church of Ireland , witnesses were James McCullough & Thomas Orr CR; Lena McVea
Thanks to Ros Davies for the Joseph Reid information below
LUCY NEE CORRY, WIDOW GEE, 2nd WIFE OF DAVID YOUNG WAS THE DAUGHTER OF WILLIAM CORRY & MARGARET REID, IS JOSEPH REID HER UNCLE OR COUSIN?
Joseph REID Ardkeen witness at the marriage of David Young of Ratalla & Mrs. Lucy Gee of Portavogie 20 Feb 1872 at Ardkeen Church of Ireland PR
. Joseph REID . Ballyhalbert & Newtownards a seaman of Ballyhalbert ; son of Francis Reid (a seaman ) ; married Jane Steward 21 Oct 1873 at 1st Newtownards Presbyterian Church, witnesses were James Bickets & Bessie McConkey PR
David Young was my g granda and Henry his brother was my gg granda too, so Capt David was doubly my gg grandfather and ggg grandfather.
RATALLA 1863 Griffiths Valuation
David Young Landlord Thomas Bailie house and garden 3 roods ratable value £2. This must be my Capt. David.
William Young Landlord Jane Thompson House and garden 1 rood 10 perches rateable value £1-5-0
Mary Jane Young Landlord Jane Thompson house and small garden rateable value 10/=
BETTY YOUNG
REG. DISTRICT NEWTOWNARDS
RECORD TYPE DEATHS
REG. DATE-QUARTER AND YEAR JULY- SEPT. 1883
ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR 1803
AGE 80
FILM NO. 101592
VOLUME 1
PAGE 547
DIGITAL GS NO 4200674
IMAGE NO 00229
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Name: David Young
Registration district: Downpatrick
Record type: DEATHS
Registration date - quarter and year: Jan - Mar 1887
Estimated birth year: 1806
Age: 81
Mother surnames:
Film number: 101594
Volume: 1
Page: 439
Digital GS number: 4200676
Image number: 00078
Collection: Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes 1845-1958
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