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« on: April 21, 2009, 03:30:39 PM »

Kintyre, Argyll:
John Stewart b. 1680 d. 1730 m. Mary (unknown)
Issue 3 children including:
Andrew Stewart b. 1712 d. 1790 m. Barbara McVicar
Issue 13 children including:
Archibald Stewart b. 1751 d. (unknown) m. Mary McLean
Issue 12 children including:
Alexander Stewart b. 1786 d. 1851 m. Catherine Kelly
Issue 4 children including:
Glasgow, Lanarkshire:
John Kelly Stuart b. 1829 d. 1881 m. Joanna MacLeod
Issue 7 children including:
Archibald G Stuart b. 1866 d. 1936 m. Laura Bruce Mackenzie
Issue 2 children including:
Ardler, Perthshire:
Ian G MacLeod-Stuart b. 1911 d. 1970 m. Pauline Portal
Issue:
London, England:
** Charles G MacLeod-Stuart b.  d.     m. Caroline Bennett
Issue 5 children including:
Middlesex, England:
Andrew R MacLeod-Stuart      b.  d.     m. Charlotte Meyerscough
Issue 2 children including:
Southampton, England
Jack A MacLeod-Stuart           b.

** yDNA match with:
The Duke of Monmouth, the Duke of Richmond and Gordon, the Duke of St.Albans, the Earl of Euston and Lord Montague of Beaulie. All claim to be descendants of from King Charles II and his mistress Nell Gwyn.
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« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2009, 05:59:33 PM »

Kintyre, Argyll:
John Stewart b. 1680 d. 1730 m. Mary (unknown)
Issue 3 children including:
Andrew Stewart b. 1712 d. 1790 m. Barbara McVicar
Issue 13 children including:
Archibald Stewart b. 1751 d. (unknown) m. Mary McLean
Issue 12 children including:
Alexander Stewart b. 1786 d. 1851 m. Catherine Kelly
Issue 4 children including:
Glasgow, Lanarkshire:
John Kelly Stuart b. 1829 d. 1881 m. Joanna MacLeod
Issue 7 children including:
Archibald G Stuart b. 1866 d. 1936 m. Laura Bruce Mackenzie
Issue 2 children including:
Ardler, Perthshire:
Ian G MacLeod-Stuart b. 1911 d. 1970 m. Constance Carnell
Issue 2 children including:
London, England:
** John G MacLeod-Stuart b.  d.     m. Margaret Wood
Issue 2 children including:
Essex, England
Laura Kate Stuart b  d.   m. Mark Dowling
Issue:
Daisy Stuart Dowling  b.d.
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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2009, 06:04:55 PM »

Kintyre, Argyll:
John Stewart b. 1680 d. 1730 m. Mary (unknown)
Issue 3 children including:
Andrew Stewart b. 1712 d. 1790 m. Barbara McVicar
Issue 13 children including:
Archibald Stewart b. 1751 d. (unknown) m. Mary McLean
Issue 12 children including:
Alexander Stewart b. 1786 d. 1851 m. Catherine Kelly
Issue 4 children including:
Glasgow, Lanarkshire:
John Kelly Stuart b. 1829 d. 1881 m. Joanna MacLeod
Issue: 7 children including:
John Stuart b. 1870  d. 1937 m. Maude Whitby
Issue: 8 children including:
Kenneth Whitby Stuart b.    d.     m.
Issue: 3 children including:
Paul Stuart. b.  d.  m. Linda
Issue: 3 children including:
Bedfordshire, England
Mark Stuart b.   d.   m.
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« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2010, 02:32:47 PM »

Since my FTDNA kit #143035 and kit #57979 are a 4/67 match, must I also belong to the same Stewart family as Mary & John Stewart (b.1680 - d.1730) of Kintyre, Argyll, Scotland? See http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Stewart/default.aspx?section=yresults

If I ever see the results of the Y-DNA tests of the Duke of Monmouth, the Duke of Richmond and Gordon, the Duke of St.Albans, the Earl of Euston, and  Montague of Beaulie, I may even believe that I belong to the same Stewart family as King Charles II.

My pedigree:
1) Rose WHITE? (b.c.1745-d.May31,1832SC) and James STEWART (b.c.1740) from Broughshane, Co. Antrim, Ireland. Left Belafast aboard Earl of Donegal" Oct. 2, 1767.  Farmed 150 acre land grant where Chester/Fairfield Co. line & Stover Creek intersect until death on Oct. 2, 1829. Rev. War militia.
2) Jane BANKHEAD (b.c. 1784) & Robert STEWART (b.c.1784-d.c1865), farmed on Stover Creek.
3) Sarah Ann NOLAND (b.1848 SC) & Thomas B. STEWART (b.c.1827 - d.Feb.1910) farmed in Longtown, Fairfield Co., SC.  He & 2 sons were privates in Co. D, 17th Regiment of Tramp's Brigade of CSA.
4) Mattie MARTIN (b.1852 - d.1920) & James E. STEWART (1848 - 10 Sep. 1918) farmed in Longtown, Fairfield Co., SC.
5) Carrie Lyles TRAYLOR (b. 21 Apr 1891 in Feasterville, Fairfield Co. 21 Sep 1980 - d. 21 Sep 1980) & Joseph Beverly STEWART (b. 18 May 1878 in Longtown- d. 17 Mar 1947 in Feasterville, Fairfield County, SC). Farmed and built county roads.
6) Beatrice Rose MARTIN & b. 17 Jul 1914 in Cherokee, Cherokee County, SC, d. 28 Feb 1991 in York Co. SC & William James STEWART (b. 21 Jan 1913 in Feasterville - d. 9 Oct 2001 York County, SC). Farmer and Construction.

My Martin family belongs to "Group #3" of the MARTIN Surname Y-DNA Project at http://www.small-stuff.com/MARTIN/DNA/ . See FTDNA kit #157832. The pedigree of one of my Martin cousin's matches includes Nicholas MARTIN, who lived in Dartington, Devonshire during the thirteenth century: "Baron Martin de Tours (1025-1088) was the first in the line, his descendants have the surname Martin..."

According to my mitochondrial DNA test results, my matrilineal ancestors belong to haplogroup T2b. They were Vikings and the first farmers and civilized haplogroup on earth.

"Haplogroup T is believed to have originated in Mesopotamia approximately 10,000 years before present, and to have moved north into Europe and east as far as India. It is found with particularly high concentrations around the eastern Baltic Sea." Source of quote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_T_(mtDNA)

My DNA has been good to me.
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> .............. 5) NANCY B. LYLES 1812 -1895
> .............. + William E. *Traylor* 1817 - ?
> ...................6) Thomas Woodward Traylor
> ...................6) WILLIAM HENRY TRAYLOR 1847 - 1920
> ...................+ Alice *Wix* 1861 - 1939
> .......................7) CARRIE LYLES TRAYLOR 1891 - 1980
> .......................+ Joseph Beverly *Stewart *1878 - 1947
> ...........................8) WILLIAM JAMES *STEWART*

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« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2010, 12:41:11 AM »

Hello P1.
It would appear from the information you have sent me that you are VERY close to my family. Your ancestor was probably one of Andrew Stewart's 13 children. I would not be surprised to discover that your Irish Stewart's simply moved “across the water” (only some 20 miles) to Ireland,  to escape the persecution of the English and their region representatives.
The gentlemen whose yDNA I matched with, were represented by their physicians, to ensure their privacy was maintained.
Please contact me directly, as I would like to view your family tree and share with you my family information and website.
E-mail to: replycs@yahoo.ca
Regards,

Charles.
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« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2010, 03:19:18 AM »

Thank you for responding to my post, Charles.
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WHY HIDE ONE'S TEST RESULTS?

If you did not see the results of the Y-DNA tests of the Duke of Monmouth, the Duke of Richmond and Gordon, the Duke of St.Albans, the Earl of Euston, and  Montague of Beaulie, how sure are you that you belong to the same family as the kings of Scotland?

CGMS310 wrote: "The gentlemen whose yDNA I matched with, were represented by their physicians."

Who told you that? Has someone played a joke on you?

Did those physicians contact you? Is contacting matches a physician's job, or ethical? If those aristocrats wanted someone to contact you, would they have used their lawyers instead?

Why would a physician contact you about his patient's DNA? To invite you to a soirée?

Sound like a tale hatched in Nigeria?

If they thought their claims were valid, why would the Duke of Monmouth, the Duke of Richmond and Gordon, the Duke of St.Albans, the Earl of Euston, and  Montague of Beaulie or any descendants of the kings of Scotland hide their DNA test results from you or anyone else? The pedigrees of aristocrats have always been published in books. That is how I discovered that some of my friends are descendants of James I.

If I ever see the results of the Y-DNA tests of the Duke of Monmouth, the Duke of Richmond and Gordon, the Duke of St.Albans, the Earl of Euston, and  Montague of Beaulie, I may believe that we belong to the same family as the kings of Scotland.
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OUR GENETIC DISTANCE

Our test results differ by five markers out of 67, one of which mutates slowly (459b). The other four mutate more quickly (449, 570, CDYa , 464c ).
 
Since my paper trail ends with James STEWART (b.c.1740) from Broughshane, Co. Antrim, Ireland, my DNA is the only evidence that I have or will have that we belong to the same Stewart family.

CGMS310 wrote: "Your ancestor was probably one of Andrew Stewart's 13 children."

When was Andrew Stewart born, etc.?

Hello P1.
...Your ancestor was probably one of Andrew Stewart's 13 children... The gentlemen whose yDNA I matched with, were represented by their physicians, to ensure their privacy was maintained.
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> .............. 5) NANCY B. LYLES 1812 -1895
> .............. + William E. *Traylor* 1817 - ?
> ...................6) Thomas Woodward Traylor
> ...................6) WILLIAM HENRY TRAYLOR 1847 - 1920
> ...................+ Alice *Wix* 1861 - 1939
> .......................7) CARRIE LYLES TRAYLOR 1891 - 1980
> .......................+ Joseph Beverly *Stewart *1878 - 1947
> ...........................8) WILLIAM JAMES *STEWART*

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« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2010, 06:59:55 PM »



Dear P1,

You seem somewhat perturbed by the "secrecy" surrounding the yDNA samples sent to FTDNA for analysis. If you (or I for that matter) were in such a position of wealth and opulence, we may both want to keep unwanted individuals "away" from the family fortune, what, what?  LOL
Truth is, these individuals donated their yDNA for research by a British author named Roger Powell, who wrote "Royal Bastards" and other such delightfully titled books.
Mr. Powell and I have spoken on a number of occasions and continue to do so.
Suffice to say that there are no "Nigeria's in the mix” and that further yDNA testing has been forthcoming, based on my own results to 67 markers. I also participated in a recent deep clad test and we are all now grouped into the following:

R1b1b2a1b5

Please let me know if you are indeed a match to my results shown below;

13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 14 15 16 17 11 10 19 23 15 15 17 17 36 37 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 11 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 21 14 12 11 13 11 11 12 11

With my best regards,


Charles.
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« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2010, 07:05:21 PM »

Dear P1,

Before I forget.

You wrote:

When was Andrew Stewart born, etc.?

My first message gave all the details:

Andrew Stewart b. 1712 d. 1790

Regards,


Charles.
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