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« on: March 01, 2009, 02:02:51 PM »

Check this out:

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GENEALOGY-DNA/2009-03/1235925849

I ran that haplotype in Whit Athey's Y Haplogroup Predictor and it came out as "R1b" (probably R1b1b2 of some kind).

Dienekes' Blog mentioned this a couple of days ago (but I just saw it today):

http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2009/02/y-chromosome-of-tsar-nicholas-ii.html

Nicholas II, although called a "Romanov", was the y-line descendant of the German-Scandinavian Dukes of Holstein-Gottorp (modern Schleswig-Holstein at the south end of the Jutland Peninsula).

Here is a simple genealogical chart that makes it pretty easy to trace Nicholas' y line:

http://www.timohaapanen.net/oldenburg.pdf

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« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2009, 03:10:59 PM »

Ah, but was he U106 or P312? That is the question.
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« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2009, 05:22:04 PM »

Ah, but was he U106 or P312? That is the question.

I ran that haplotype in YSearch, adjusting H4 from 12 to 11 because of the conversion. There was an exact match with a man with the surname Godfrey who has 67 markers, including 492=12, and who traces his ancestry to Ireland.

I'm not sure how much that means, but U106 is almost universally 492=13.
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« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2009, 09:32:13 PM »

Ah, but was he U106 or P312? That is the question.

I ran that haplotype in YSearch, adjusting H4 from 12 to 11 because of the conversion. There was an exact match with a man with the surname Godfrey who has 67 markers, including 492=12, and who traces his ancestry to Ireland.

I'm not sure how much that means, but U106 is almost universally 492=13.
Well, about 95% of the time, anyway.
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« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2009, 07:33:51 PM »

Ah, but was he U106 or P312? That is the question.

I ran that haplotype in YSearch, adjusting H4 from 12 to 11 because of the conversion. There was an exact match with a man with the surname Godfrey who has 67 markers, including 492=12, and who traces his ancestry to Ireland.

I'm not sure how much that means, but U106 is almost universally 492=13.
Well, about 95% of the time, anyway.

That's why I used the word "almost."
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