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Miles Hispaniae
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« on: May 09, 2008, 03:41:07 PM »

The first king of Arghialla

 Colla-da-Chrioch .

 Síl Colla Focrích

 Airthera, Rigradh Dartraighe Coindinse, Ui Meth, Fir Fernmuighe, Fir Manach, Fir Lemna, Síl Duibtiri, Ui Briuin Archoill, Fir Roiss, Ui Maine, Fir Dubhshlat, Ui Cennfhada, Ui mic Brocc, Ui Echach bega, Ui Echach móra, Ui Dortaind, Ui Níalláin, Ui Conaill, Ui Bresail of Macha and of Mughdorn, Ui Cremthaind, and Ui Luain, with relatives.
 
Colla Focrích "Colla-da-Chrioch" had four sons; Imchad, Findchad, Rochaid, Fiachra Cassán.

From Imchad came Muiredach Méth, a quo Uí Méith. According to early genealogies, the Uí Maine Connacht are also descended from Imchad.
 
From Rochad descended the Cenél Rochada, that is the Fernmuigi and Síl Daim Argait and Uí Briúin ar Chaill and Uí Labrada and Dál n-Uaich (Oaich) and Uí Chremthainn and Uí Meic Brócc and Uí Tuathail.

From Fiachra Cassán descended the Síl Fiachra Cassán, that is the Airthir of Ard Macha and Uí Breasail and Uí Nialláin and Uí Dorthain and Uí Eochada and Uí Cruind and Uí Trena.

Colla Uais had sons named Eachach and Ercc. From Colla Uais descended the Uí Meic Uais and Uí Tuirtri and Uí Cormaic and Uí Dáire and Ui Fiacrach Arda Sratha and Cenél Meic Cárthind and Cenél mBecce and Cenél Raithne and Cenél n-Erchoil.

 Síl Colla Uais, Ui Mac Uais, Ui Tuírtre, Fir Luirg, Ui Fiacrach Arda Sratha, Ui Mic Cairthaind, Fir na tri leth, Fir Leitreach, Fir Lugaidh, Fir in Muighe, Ui Tabarna, Fir in Chláir, Ui Mic Cairthaind of L. Febail, and the Fir ili.

Colla Menn had sons named Mennit Chruthnech and Mugdorn Dub di Ultaib.
From Colla Meann descended the Mughdorna and the Dál Mennat.

From Colla-da-Chrioch are claimed to be the  descendants of  some of these noble families of Ulster.

The Cenél nEógain  reduced the size of the Aighiallan federation as the people of northern Airghialla came to be treated as sub-kingdoms of the Cenél nEógain. During a similar period the southern branches of the Airghialla came under the dominion of the southern Uí Néill kingdoms of Mide and Brega. In 9th century Airgialla proper, as a political entity, was practically confined to the modern counties Armagh, Monaghan, Fermanagh, and part of Louth, with the Uí Thuirtri kingdom in east Tyrone in process of being absorbed into the Cenél nEógain over-kingdom of Ailech.

http://www.ysearch.org/search_results.asp?uid=NRYQA&min_markers=25&mismatch_type=absolute&mismatches_max=4&mismatches_sliding_starting_marker=8&lastname_limiter=none&haplo=&region=


http://www.ysearch.org/research_comparative.asp?uid=NRYQA&vallist=NRYQA%2Cskx6a%2Cf9zpf%2C2anjj%2Cnkwbs%2Cx7qzq%2C84g54%2Ce5y62%2Cmsjs2%2Ccbcsn%2Cyyh22%2Cz2hqs%2C5dxrt%2Czkxw%2Cx2fs6

This Haplotype i believe is that of the Ui Niallian Sept of the Kingdom of Airthir or associated with the Oriel . (The Eastern area of Oirghilla: Orgialla Irish: ór, gold; giall, hostage, ie hostage of gold. Airgíallne, meaning "additional clientship". ) A people absorbed into the Cenel nEoghain .

The O'Neill's who match it is likely that at one time their ancestors adopted the surname O'Neill then centuries later thrived in Ireland after the 1600's till the 1800's . When the core of the O'Neill's of Ulster departed to Spain, Spanish Netherlands , Austria and the Caribbean.



NRYQA   13 24 14 11 12 15 12 12 11 13 13 30 18 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 15 15 17 18 35 37
2ANJJ Easter 13 24 14 11 12 15 12 12 11 13 13 30 18 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 17 18 11 11 19 23 15 15 17 18 35 37                                                                                   
9SEA2 MacLean  13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 11 12 13 29 18 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 15 17 17                                                                                                           
CBCSN O'Neal   13 24 14 11 12 15 12 12 11 13 13 30 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 17 17                                                                                                           
E942P Livingstone   13 25 14 11 11 15 12 12 11 13 13 29 18 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 15 17 17                                                                                                           
 F9ZPF Easter  13 24 14 11 12 15 12 12 11 13 13 30 18 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 17 18 11 11 19 23 15 15 17 18 35 37                                                                                   
GY69R McNally  13 24 14 11 12 15 12 12 11 13 13 30 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 15 15 17                                                                                                           
MSJS2 ONeal  13 24 14 12 12 15 12 12 11 13 13 30 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 15                                                                   
PNG9R Easter      13 24 14 11 12 15 12 12 11 13 13 30 18 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 15 15 17 18 35 37                                                                                   
SKX6A O'Neill        13 24 14 11 11 15 12 12 11 13 13 30 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 15 15 17 18 35 37 
YYH22 � Daimh�n  13 24 14 11 11 15 12 12 11 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 15 17 17           


Note: This is just basic research on written historical legendary genealogy of the Irish and Y-DNA study. Nothing conclusive but it looks to be the reason why none of the current O'Neill's match the supposed Ui Neill modal. Futher research is needed. But i believe this to be the Y-DNA of people absorbed into the Cenel nEoghain clan.
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Mary Lee Becker
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« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2008, 12:36:52 AM »

Persons interested in this idea, of finding the Y-DNA patterns of the people of Airgialla, might want to check out a new geographic project at FTDNA and WFN. It is the Oriel Septs of Ireland project:
https://www.familytreedna.com/public/orielsepts
  Thank you,
  Mary Becker
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  Oriel Septs of Ireland Project
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