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Miles Hispaniae
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« on: March 25, 2008, 03:34:10 PM »

Irish genealogies have Niall Glúndub mac Áedo d. 919, Son of Aed Finliath d. 879 king of Ailech 855-879 A.D. and High King of Ireland 862-879 A.D. He was a member of the House of Cenél nEógain of the Northern Uí Néill, and his father was Niall Caille, High King of Ireland 823-845 A.D.

There are genealogical records of a Njall Glundubh that show he was born circa 850 A.D. in Norway and married to Lund Verch Echach .
 
Niall Glundub MacAEDA
    (Njal GLUNDUBH)
Born  abt. 870 A.D.   Died  919 A.D.

 
 Wife:         Land (Lund) verch ECHACH
 Children:         Muirchertach na G-Cochaill Criceann MacNEILL  &  NJALSDATTER
 
                        
Njal Glundubh; abt 0850 -
 Njalsdatter; abt 0875 - & Gudrod Iversson
 Halfdan Gudrodsson; 0900 - & Ingeborg Haraldsdottir
Gunhild Halfdansdottir; abt 0933 - & Finn Eyvindsson
 Eyvind Finnsson; abt 0950 - abt 0990
 Harek Eyvindsson; bef 0990 - 1040 & Ragnhild Arnesdatter Finn Hareksson; abt 1025 -
 Njal Finnson; abt 0960 - 9/1011
Astrid Njalsdatter; 0998 - aft 1066 & Rognvald "The Old" Ulfsson
Stenkil I of Sweden Ragnvaldsson; abt 1025 - 1066 &? Daughter of Edmund Olafsson


 Parents of
Njalsdatter & Muirchertach na G-Cochaill Criceann MacNEILL
 
From this man Niall Glundubh the Ulster O'Neills take their surname.

Neill: Norman French form of Scandinavian Njal, meaning 'Champion'. Domhnal' dark or brown', Donnchadh 'dark skinned warrior', Murchadh 'sea fighter', Lochlainn 'land of the vikings', Muireadhach 'master of the sea', Dubh 'dark or black'.     
Niall Glundubh in the Irish genealogies is the father of three sons.

1. Muirchertach 'of the leather cloaks'
2. Maelciaran
3. Conaing

Conaing is not a Gaelic word but a word borrowed from the Angles.
Anglo Saxon ' Cyning'
Proto Germanic ' Kuningaz'
Dutch 'Koning'
Norwegian 'Konge and Kong'
Faroese 'Kongur'
German 'Koning'
The Kings of Brega with the name Conaing:
Conaing Cuirre  d.662 A.D.
Congalach mac Conaing  d. 696 A.D.
Conaing mac Amalgaid  d. 742 A.D.
Congalch mac Conaing   d. 778 A.D.
Cinaed mac Conaing   d. 851 A.D.
Fearghal mac Conaing  , Chief of the Aileach and Cenel Eoghain 987 A.D
Dunchad mac Conaing 650 A.D


The word Tuatha & the Tu•a•tha Dé Da•nann
Ancient Gael concept of the word Tuath really meant 'people' and from this the root word emerged ' Deutsch'.
Tu•a•tha Dé Da•nann:  In Irish Myth. A race of gods or demigods who defeated the Fomorians and ruled Ireland during a golden age until they were  defeated by the Milesians. There is the accounts of Rameses III who fought the marauding peoples, including the Danauna and Pulesti that attacked Egypt in about 1200 B.C.
Diodorus of Sicily c. 50 B.C. describes a man named Danaus who settled in Argos, and that Athens was colonised from Egypt. The word Dan appears on many names of the Greeks.
Danaus, Danae,  Danaans and Danaids.
The Irish myths of the  Tuatha de Danaan.
Tuatha de Danann, "the people of Danann," from pl. of tuath & Danann, mother of the gods.
Teutonic "of or pertaining to the Germanic languages and to peoples or tribes who speak or spoke them," from L. Teutonicus, from Teutones, name of a tribe that inhabited coastal Germany.
Teuta, word for "people" Lith. tauto, Osc. touto, O.Ir. tuath, Goth. þiuda, O.E. þeod.
Dutsch, from. duit-isc, þeodisc "belonging to the people," common language of Germanic people, from þeod "people, race, from teuta- "people" cf. O.Ir. tuoth "people," O.Lith. tauta "people," O.Prus. tauto "country," Oscan touto "community".
Tyr the one handed god of battle and war. Resembles the Celtic Nuada who had his hand cut off in battle against Sreng, of the Fir Bolgs.
Heremon, son of the Milesius cut off his own hand to gain the lands of Ulster. A tale describing the Germanic God Tyr. The Milesian story possibly based on oral history or a creation of Irish scribes trying to create a common pedigree for all the Irish clans.

Looking at the McNeills there are plenty of McNeills in the Hgs R1a , I1c, I1a.

R1a 13 25 15 11 11 13 12 12 10 14 11 31 15 8 10 11 11 23 14 20 31 12 15 15 16 11 12 19 21 15
R1a 13 25 15 11 11 13 12 12 10 14 11 31 15 8 10 11 11 23 14 20 31 12 15 15 16 11 12 19 21 15
I1a 13 23 14 10 14 15 11 14 11 12 11 28 15 8 9 8 11 22 16 20 28 11 14 14 16 10 10 19 21 14
I1a 13 23 14 10 14 15 11 14 11 12 11 28 15 8 9 8 11 23 16 20 29 11 14 14 16
I1c 14 23 16 10 14 14 11 13 10 12 12 28 16 8 10 11 11 25 15 20 30 11 15 15 16
I1c 15 24 15 10 15 16 11 13 11 13 12 29 16 8 9 11 11 27 15 20 28 11 11 15 15
I1c 15 24 15 10 15 16 11 13 11 13 12 29 17 8 9 11 11 26 15 20 28 11 11 14 15 10 10 19 21 14
 
Looking at the O'Neills there are a few O'Neills in the Hgs I1c

I1c 15 24 15 10 14 14 11 13 10 12 12 28 16 7 10 11 11 24 15 20 31 11 15 15 15 11 11 19 21 15
I1c 15 23 16 11 14 14 11 13 10 12 12 28
I1c 15 23 16 11 14 14 11 13 10 12 12 29 17 8 10 11 11 25 15 20 29 11 14 15 15 11 11 19 21 14

There are a few O’Neill’s & McNeill that look to be possibly in the R1b1c9 or R1b1c9b Hg (one already tested + for R1b1c9) but none have a strong genealogical records to my knowledge.

13 23 14 11 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 29 16 9 10 11 11 25 14 18 31 15 15 16 18 11 11 19 22 15
13 23 14 11 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 29 20 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 22 15
13 23 14 10 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 14 19 30 15 15 17 17
12 25 15 10 11 13 12 12 12 12 13 28 18 9 10 11 11 25 15 20 30 14 15 15 17 11 11 19 22 15
12 25 15 10 11 13 12 12 12 12 13 28 18 9 10 11 11 25 15 20 30 14 15 15 17 11 11 19 22 16
12 25 15 10 11 13 12 12 12 12 13 28 18 9 10 11 11 25 15 20 30 14 15 15 17 11 11 19 22 16
12 25 15 10 11 13 12 12 12 12 13 28 18 9 10 11 11 25 15 20 30 14 15 15 17 11 11 19 22 16
12 25 15 10 11 13 12 12 12 12 13 28 18 9 10 11 11 25 15 20 30 14 15 15 17 11 11 19 22 16




King Somerled of the Isles,  R1a a descendant of the O'Neill's?

King Somerled of the Isles R1a Haplotype

13 25 15 11 11 14 12 12 10 14 11 31 16 8 10 11 11 23 14 20 31 12 15 15 16 11 12 19 21 17
Somerled it is written to have been born around 1113 in Morven, Argyleshire. Donald, the grandson of Sommerled, the progenitor of Clan Donald of Scotland.

Aodh Anrothan, the son of Aodh Athlone O'Neill, relocated to Scotland from Ireland in the early eleventh century. He married the heiress of Cowal and Knapdale, a princess from the Royal House of Argyll.
King Somerled ,  of the Isles and Man d. 1064. King Somerled's wife Ragnhildis, was the daughter of King Olave the Red, King of Man.

The Maurice McNeill & McNeill’s Clan question?
Was Maurice McNeill a foster-brother or son of Olaf's a friend of Somerled's?
Was Maurice McNeill the nephew of Somerled?

All R1a tested

McNeil 13 25 15 11 11 13 12 12 10 14 11 31 15 8 10 11 11 23 14 20 31 12 15 15 16 10 12 19 21 15
McIntyre 13 25 15 11 11 13 12 12 10 14 11 31 17 8 10 11 11 23 14 20 32 12 15 15 16 11 12 19 21 15
McNeill 13 25 15 11 11 13 12 12 10 14 11 31 15 8 10 11 11 23 14 20 32 12 15 15 16 11 12 19 21 15

The Scandinavian Influences among the Ui Neill

Marriages among the Gael clans and Norse occured more than often especially in the Hebrides Isles. In the middle of the 9th century Muirgel, the daughter of Maelsechlainn I of the Ui Neill married the Norse Larnkne. Amhloabh, son of the king of Norway, married the daughter of Aed MacNeill. There are old stories of Irish Chieftains who were levying tribute on the Shetlands, the Orkneys and the Faroes. Sigtrygg's elder brother and predecessor as king of Dublin, Gluniarainn, his half brother and brother in law was Maelsechnaill mac Domnall. 1098 A.D. Norwegian King ,Magnus Barelegs . He had conquered the Hebrides and the Isle of Man. He married Muirchertach's daughter when he was killed in Ulster inthe year 1103 he sent her back to her father. He left a son King Harold Gille, who was born in Ireland or the Hebrides Isles.

Among the MacNeills of Barra the R1a, I1c and I1a is present and all in their Hgs
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