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« on: January 02, 2005, 06:10:00 PM »

We invite you to submit your "Pedigree" for the Rountree Family Project Patriarch page. (You don’t have to be a test participant to post your family pedigree.)  

There are two ways to make your pedigree available to the project administrator for posting on the Patriarch Page:
1.  Send the pedigree by email directly to carrie@worldfamilies.net in the simplified form described below  (If you send it this way, your pedigree will only be posted on the Patriarch Page, and will not be included in the Pedigree Forum)
Be sure to include
  
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mail address you wish to be posted with the pedigree
                 Kit number of the project participant whose pedigree this is
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ame, birthdate, birthplace, spouse for each generation (direct  male line).

2.  Log-in to post your pedigree on the Pedigree Forum.  By posting your pedigree on the forum, you are making it available for the Project Administrator to post it on the Patriarch Page, along with your contact information, and kit number (or code identity number).



  1. You must be logged in to post on this forum.
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  2.  Please include your Kit number or Code Identity number if you have been tested for the project.

  3. Please read the following instructions, then scroll down to the last posting on this forum and click "reply" in order to post your pedigree.

  4. The pedigree for a Surname Project follows your paternal line.  Please post only the information for each generation:


Full Name of Earliest Known Male Ancestor for this Surname
His birthdate
Birthplace
Spouse’s name


(If you are missing any piece of this information, post another bit of identifying information) 


Suggestions for Posting your Pedigree on this forum:


o        Post four pieces of information for each ancestor


o        Begin with the earliest generation


o        Use standard abbreviations:  m=married, b=born, d=died, c=circa, Co=county, VA=Virginia, GA=Georgia, etc


o        Try to keep to one line per generation


o        Include only generations that have this family surname


o        Provide your name and email address as the pedigree provider


o        Provide the kit number and/or project code identity number if pedigree is for a tested participant


o        Use surname with each generation


o        Don’t use all caps


o        Don’t include anyone whose birthdate is after 1910, for privacy concerns.


o        Don’t number the generations 


Scroll down to the last posting on this forum and click "reply". Post your pedigree in the box provided, and click "Post".    


If you do not see a"reply" tab, it means you have lost your log in and will need to log in again in order to post. Go back to the project home page, log in again, and return to the pedigree forum. Login should hold the second time. 


 


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« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2007, 02:38:13 PM »

1.John Rountree b.Aug 1815 Maury Co TN d. C. 1880 m. Marg. McKee
2.John Rountree b.1850 Maury Co TN,d.1922 Theta, TN. m. Melvina Witherspoon
3.Paul  Rountree b. 1878 TN d. 1923 Culleoka, TN. m.Sarah Adeline Spivey
4.Marvin Rountree b.1908 Maury Co. TN, d. 1983 OR. m. Magadeline Doyle
5.PARTICIPANT

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« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2007, 12:51:06 PM »

Hi, ginroun.  Your pedigree is posted:  http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/r/rountree/pats.html

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« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2007, 04:04:39 PM »

1.   John Rountree b c1798 in Kilmore, Co. Armagh, m Mary Anne ? c1820, d 1889 in Kilmore.
2.   Charles Rountree b 1822 in Kilmore, m Frances Jones c1844, d 1891 in Richhill, Co. Armagh.
3.   William John Rountree b c1858 in Richhill, m Mary Connolly 1881, d 1930 in Richhill.
4.   Frederick Rountree b 1883 in Richhill, m Margaret Mallon 1903, d 1951 in Castlerea, Co. Roscommon.
5.   William John Rountree b 1904 in Richhill, m Eileen Donovan in 1931, d 1972 in Mitcham, Surrey, England.
6.   Participant
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« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2007, 11:56:49 AM »

Hi, Rickie.  Your pedigree has been posted:  http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/r/rountree/pats.html

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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2007, 11:14:02 AM »

Ricky do you have a male Roundtree (any spelling) who can be DNA tested? As you know the Thomas Roundtree/Rountree line has matched perfectly with John S Rowntree who was the son of Turner Rowntreee of SC and I believe VA. I think he is the son of Richardson Rowntree.

Our proven Thomas Roundtree line is of County Armagh Ireland. I am very excited to see your line posted and wonder about any connection.

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« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2007, 01:27:33 PM »

Never mind to most of my comments or questions. I have now figured it out.

I am still uncertain about the County Armagh connections.

Ginny
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« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2008, 01:41:28 PM »

Personal Pedigree - Ed Rountree [ecrtree AT verizon.net]

1. William Rountree b c1700, New Kent Co VA, d cNov 1785 New Kent Co VA
2. Richardson Rountree b c1735 New Kent Co VA, d cMar 1819 Edgefield SC
3. Thomas Hart Routree b 27Mar 1778 Union Co SC, d 15 Jun 1828 Lynchburg TN
4. James Lewis Rountree b 1 Feb 1806 SC, d 13 Apr 1888 Burnet, Travis Co TX
5. Wilson Barton Rountree b 7 Oct 1856 Oatmeal, TX d 28 Jul 1922, Oceanside, CA
6. Edward C. Rountree b 2 Jul 1907, Douglas, AZ, d 24 Jul 1979, Covina, CA
7. PARTICIPANT
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« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2008, 02:02:11 PM »

Hi, EdR. 

Your pedigree has been posted:  http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/rountree/pats

Carrie
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« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2008, 11:17:40 AM »

Moses b. 1550 Leyburn, Yorkshire England,m. 1572  Melvina York b.1556
William b. 1573 m. 1595  Rachel Simpson b. 1574
Joseph b. 1598 m. 1620 Rebecca Toms b. 16
John b.1622 m. 1646 Jane Hardy b. 1625
Francis b. 1649 m. 1670  Sarah Coleman b. 1655
Charles b. 1680 m. 1712 Lydia McMan b. 1682
Thomas b. 1733 m. 1755 Eva Sturgess b. 1740
Rachel b. 1765 m. William Jacobs b. 1780             
 
I have several brothers and sisters of these listed. My family goes from Northumberland England, to Armagh, Ireland, emigrated to the states in c1676 and settled in N.C.
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« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2008, 02:22:40 PM »

Hi, dejay37. 

Your pedigree has been posted:  http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/rountree/pats

Carrie
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« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2009, 09:15:09 PM »

Francis Rountree b. c1676 Armagh, Ire, m Ann Sumner
Jesse Rountree b. c1725, VA, m Rachel Spivey
Jesse Rountree b. 27 Jun 1765 Pitt County, NC, m Winnifred Jenkins
Winnifred Rountree b. 5 Aug 1807 Pitt County, NC, m Benjamin Brown
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« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2009, 06:24:02 PM »

John Rowntree b c1680 Yorkshire England, m Ann Marton 1708, d 1741 Yorkshire England
Robert Rowntree b 1722 Yorkshire England, m Mary Halliday, d c1789
Robert Rowntree b 1754 Yorkshire England, m Ann Wood 1783, d 1832 Yorkshire England
William Rowntree b 1792 Yorkshire England, m Elizabeth Bowman 1822, d 1858 Yorkshire England
John Rowntree b 1824 Yorkshire England, m Sarah Horn 1847, d 1876 London England
William G Rowntree b 1850 London England, m Anne J Kirkby 1878, d 1911 London England
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« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2009, 10:41:25 AM »

Hi,
This isn't proven, but would like confirmation, if anyone knows for sure:
John Rountree (1762-1821) Orange Co., NC to Maury, TN. Married Nancy Manning. Daughter Jerusha (Jerusa) married John Ellis (1773-1842) North Carolina to Georgia. Their son John (1812-1856) married Bathsheba Hatten in Telfair Co., Georgia.

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« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2009, 12:43:16 PM »

Debbie,

No, John, the son of Thomas Rountree and Evy Sturgis, who went to Maury County, TN, married Jelsey Thompson.

It was a different John Rountree who married Nancy Manning and went to Georgia.  I am not sure who he was, but might have been Thomas's brother.

I know that the Georgia family think that second John was Thomas's son, but I have 100% proof that Thomas's son went to Maury and married Jelsey Thomson.

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« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2009, 06:35:50 PM »


 James Vandiver Jones  b 1803 SC or VA
    William J. Jones b 1826  Greenville County SC
      William J. "Johnny" Jones b 1854  Anderson County, SC
        Participant

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« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2009, 04:29:31 PM »

Jones was used as a Christian name by the Rountree family in Co. Armagh, Ireland, from the late 18th. century through to the beginning of the 20th. century, and several Rountree families who immigrated to the USA, from Armagh, used it in the 19th. century.

However, I cannot find any link between these families and that of James Vandiver Jones.    Unfortunately, James's descendents cannot trace further back than James, but there is a suspicion that he was illegitimate.

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« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2009, 10:50:48 AM »

Andrew Lawrence Roundtree born 1891
William Andrew Roundtree born 1844
James Woodson Roundtree born 1820
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« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2009, 02:43:25 PM »

Teresa,

It was nice to see you tree posted.   Thank you.   Could you please let us know the original sources of your information for your tree from Moses through to Francis.

Also, do you have information connecting Francis to the William, who married Dorcus.  Again, have you information which says Dorcus was a Dudley?

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« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2009, 03:08:27 PM »

We now have a 100% match on 67 markers between a descendent of Thomas Rountree/Evy Sturgis and a descendent of William Rountree, who was born around 1699, in Virginia, through his son, Turner.   Turner is a brother of Richardson Rountree.

This means, according to FTDNA, that there is a 99.4% probability that the common ancestor is just 9 generations back, which clearly puts him in Co. Armagh, Ireland.

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« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2009, 07:29:42 PM »

Rickie, I need to quibble with you a little over the interpretation - as the close match says that there is a recent shared ancestor.  It could be 9 generations - or could be earlier or later than 9 generations.

As long as the paper trails are saying the connection is before America - and both of these families come from Co Armagh, fine - but the dna match simply says it is a close match.  It does not say when or where.

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« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2009, 06:13:02 AM »

Terry,

I accept what you are saying about the DNA not telling where the common ancestor lived; I know it cannot directly do that.   The paper trail for one of the participants definitely goes back to Co. Armagh, to around 1700.  The other starts in Virginia around 1700.   However, if you take the percentages given by FTDNA, there is a 99.4% chance that the common ancestor is 9 generations back.   So, yes, there is supposedly a 0.6% chance it is longer than 9 generations.   This assumes, of course, that FTDNA statistics are correct and believable.   It is known that the Rountree family were in Co. Armagh back, at least, 10 generations from one of the participants (as it is from myself).

I would like to add that there is a Rountree legend written in 1867 that talks about a Rountree coming, with 6 sons, to Virginia from Ireland, around the end of the 17th. century.   Now that story has some factual errors, as well as some highly contentious fable like assumptions, but I assume there is some basis of truth in it.

In retrospect I should have said that there is a nearly 100% chance that the common ancestor was from Ireland.   But I still say that if the ancestor was only 9 generations back, he was in Ireland.

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« Reply #22 on: November 20, 2009, 10:33:12 AM »

Hey Fred.  Combining dna results and paper trails is a very powerful tool and I would draw a similar (if not identical) conclusion to yours based on what you are reporting. 

I am only cautioning about how much of the conclusion can be borne by the dna result.

There are serious analytical researchers  who caution that FTDNA's mutation rate is probably not as high as FTDNA claims.  FTDNA has not provided their basis for their mutation rate.  Plugging in a lower mutation rate modifies your probability some - but that really doesn't change the outcome very much.  More importantly - statistics is a study of large quantities and when applied to a specific - such as two results - it is being used in a potentially misleading way.    The real issue is to keep a realization that the probabilities are not precision when applied to a specific situation.

As example - my uncle and I are 41/43.  Statistics say that we have less than a 1% chance of being related in our 1.5 generations of separation.  Family information clearly says we are related - as do appearance and mannerism.  Additionally - we know where both mutations originated through "overtesting" of my family.  My father started one of the two mutations and I started the other.   Therefore, I have no concern about claiming my grandfather as our most recent common ancestor - despite the very low statistical probability. 

In contrast, Richard Barton and we do not share a common paper trail any later than c1620s.  But - Richard and my uncle are perfect 43/43 matches.  One looking at only statistics would conclude that Richard and my uncle are more closely related than my uncle and I. 

All that quibbling aside - the 67/67 match certainly supports your conclusions drawn from traditional research and paper trails. 

Good luck with research - and in connecting your families

Terry
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« Reply #23 on: November 20, 2009, 11:13:46 AM »

Terry,

Thank you for your comments.   I used statistics in my work (a long time ago) and I somewhat believe in the saying 'there are statistics and there are  lies'.   Unfortunately we can never be certain, as your example of your uncle and your 1620 ancestor show.

Thank you for your interest.

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« Reply #24 on: March 26, 2010, 01:50:09 PM »

William Gaston Rountree, b 24 Oct 1829, Pickens AL, m Kesiah Bennett
John Richardson Rountree, b 17 Oct 1849, Kosciusko, Attala, MS, m Loula McAnulty
Edgar wesley Rountree, b12 Jan 1879, Greenwood, FL, m Lillian Alabama Ward
William Erwin Rountree, b 20 Nov 1907, Montgomery, AL, m Dorothy Sullivan Farrior
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