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« on: January 06, 2007, 04:05:17 PM »

Do you have research/information/comments to add to this genealogical line?  Feel free to post and please indicate your sources!!
http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/carson/pats

#  C-15  John Carson, b c1780, d 1857, m Sally Estes- Rick Carson [ecarson203 AT aol.com]
    * Elizabeth Carson, b 1803, m Moses Dobbs
    * Rebecca Carson, b 1805, m James Foster
    * John Carson, b 1808, m1 Jane Allen, m2 Jane Triplett Elliot
    * William Carson, b 1811, m Nancy Davis
    * Marjory Carson, b 1819, m Armstrong Blevins
    * Rhoda Carson, b 1820, Morris Foster
    * Esther Carson, b 1823, m Ervin Foster
    * James Carson, b 1825, m Frankie Elvina Smith
    * Jennie Carson, b 1828, m Patton Foster
    * Polly Ann Carson, b 1830, m1 Wes Buttram, m2 Andrew Reed
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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2007, 12:15:36 PM »

Carson, John     Estes, Sally     05 Dec 1801     Grainger County, TN
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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2007, 01:34:06 PM »

1850 in District 18, Scott, Tennesse (the census taker added additional information:  years married and a date or two, I think it is when married and when started school)

John Carson Sr 70 TN farmer married 4 years 1818
Nancy Carson 50 TN
Wm Carson 7 TN
Samuel Carson 5 TN

John Carson Jr 38 KY farmer married 10 years 1840 1838
Jane Carson 36 VA
Wm Carson 16 TN farmer
James Carson 14 TN
Nancy Carson 13 TN
M P Ettell? 14 TN
Hulda Elliott 12 TN

Samuel Carson 9 TN
John Carson 7 TN
Rebecca Carson 6 TN
Sary Carson 4 TN
Maryan Carson 2 TN
E? Carson (male) 3/12 TN

James Carson 24 TN married 4 years farmer 1847
F L (female) Carson 22 TN
Tilda Carson 2 TN
J M (male) Carson 3/12 TN

Step children, not of the Carson line


1860 in District 2, Scott, Tennessee
John Carson 50 KY farmer
Jane Carson 49 VA
James Carson 22 TN
Samuel Carson 20 TN
John Carson 18 TN
Rebecca Carson 16 TN
Sarrah Carson 14 TN
Mary A Carson 12 TN
Emely Carson 9 TN

Sarrah Carson 80 TN
Clary Duncain 35 TN hired servant
Peter Duncain 7 TN
Sarrah Carson 15 TN
Jackson Carson 15 TN hired servant

Louis Griffith 25 TN farmer 0/150
Nancy Griffith 22 Tn
Rebecca J Griffith 1 TN
William Carson 25 TN farm laborer 130/250

James Carson 33 TN farmer
Frances E Carson 33 GA
John Carson 8 TN
William H Carson 5 TN
Sarsah Carson 4 TN
Peggy J Carson 1 TN



1870 in District 2, Scott, TN:
Carson John 59 KY farmer 900/800
          Jane 48 VA
          John 28 TN farmer 175/150
          Jackson 26 TN farmer 175/150
          Sarah A 22 TN
Keeton Beaty 23 TN farmer  0/225
          Emily 18 TN
          Mary A 7/12 TN



1880 in Scott, Tennessee

Carson John 70 KY VA TN farmer in Huntsville
          Jane 68 VA VA VA

Carson James 54 TN VA VA farmer in Chitwood
          Frank E 54 TN NC NC
          Rebecca J 20 TN TN TN
          Polly 18 TN TN TN
          Maury 16 TN TN TN female
          James B 14 TN TN TN
          Geo. W. 12 TN TN TN
          Leander 9 TN TN TN
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2009, 02:18:36 PM »

This Carson lineage is I2b1, Nordic.  It does not connect with the R1b1 lines for many thousands of years back.

C-15, C-21 and C-27 are 34/37 and 33/37 matches so their common ancestor could be within a thousand years, but the paper trail has not yet confirmed who it is and likely never will.

There is an unusual development in this lineage.  It appears that markers CDYa and CDYb (724) have fused back together.  It was not a six jump step from 31-37 to 37-37, but likely just one.  And not seven steps from 31-37 to 36-36, but likely only two.  Family Tree DNA's ancestor predictor will not be accurate if comparing test results that do not have the same markers for CDYa and CDYb.

Further speculation on Haplogroup I - Lineage I-B should go here:
http://www.worldfamilies.net/forum/index.php?topic=8399.0
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