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Megabolt
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« on: January 03, 2007, 09:21:54 AM »

On completion of recent EA tests showing S21+, S26-, S28- and S29+ the H5 DJ Hayward haplogroup is now defined as R1b1c9b. djh
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« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2008, 08:46:30 AM »

On completion of the FTDNA 'U' Series Tests H5 is now Haplogroup R1b1c9a and not R1b1c9b as previously listed by EA's nomeclemature.
Results are FTDNA - M173+ M207+ M269+ M343+ P25+ U106+ U198+
                EA - S21+ S29+

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« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2008, 02:35:02 AM »

The most recent change has H5 listed by FTDNA as R1b1b2g1 for U198/S29.

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« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2010, 08:10:10 PM »

Following testing at 23&me H5 has an unlisted subgrouping of R1b-L129, a Private mutation which may turn out to be either a new sub group or an anomaly between the Y and X genes at the testing level. It will remain as R1b1b2a1a1 until resolved.
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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2010, 08:40:59 PM »

FTDNA has returned a NEGATIVE result for the R-L129 for H5 so the problem looks to be with the  23andme chip test. H5 remains as R1b-U198 (R1b1b2a1a1).
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« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2012, 12:08:50 AM »

The latest results from FTDNA Y-DNA tests of H5 have the tree for H5 extended between R1b-U106, through R1b-Z381 and R1b-Z301, to R1b-U198. No new sub clade below U198 have been published as yet.
Sub sub groups of U198 can be found in the R1b-U198 Project.
H5's Haplogroup under the ISOOG YDNA Tree (2012) as R1b1a2a1a1a5b1, where the above results are published. H5 has been tested out to 111 markers.

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« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2013, 11:12:20 PM »

H5 has now 'morphed' into Haplogroup R1b - Lineage II. The three top names were related on paper previous to DNA Testing.

Of note in the top three is that the separation is 5 markers over 111. The top two are father/son from Australia with the third a cousin from the USA. This is profound as it is since the two lines parted in 1850 that these markers have changed.
 
It also divides the two Families into an North American branch and an Australian branch on the tree. We now need an English cousin to test out to 111 markers to find what differences are between the three. The third Hayward (cousin) is presently undergoing SNP testing to confirm the sub clade R1b-U198.

There are also different spelling variations of this surname in this particular lineage, Howard being one and Heyward another.

To fellow trees in the Hayward DNA Project, the colour coding really does shows out the related lines of each group.

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« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2014, 06:01:00 AM »

Since the Chromo2 and Big Y results, H5 (R1b-Lineage II), now showing as R-U198, is actually now four steps below this level on the R1b-U198 Projects 'news' page.
 
FTDNA, ISSOG and the Britains DNA  Y trees do not, as yet, show these changes.
 
H5 was integral in the discovery of these lower steps on the tree through testing with the FTDNA and Britains DNA sites plus Thomas and Astrid Krahn's YSEQ sites individual testing of DF89. The BigY reveals a lot more SNP's below R1b-U198 to be revealed at a later date.

The R1b-U198 tree starts to spread after 10 years of research....
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