Hello Carole. I keep trying to find out more about mtDNA J, and the most useful forum I've found so far is J-mtDNA@yahoogroups.com
It's owned by Jim Logan, who researches in this field. I've cut and pasted a recent exchange of posts on this forum which you might find informative.
I've recently had my HVR2 region tested, so I now have 10 markers on that region as well as 6 on HVR, and it would appear that I am J1c1 (see below). I have found 3 very close matches, at 6/6 on HVR1 and 9/10 on HVR2 (I have an extra mutation there that the other three don't have). One of these 3 people is an American lady who was adopted and doesn't know who her biological parents were. The second is someone whose mtDNA ancestry goes back to Ayrshire in the west of Scotland, and the third has mtDNA ancestors in Dublin.
However, at a GD (genetic distance) of 2 or more markers, I am getting near matches with people from Norway, Russia and Latvia!
I had noticed matches with Scottish but also East European areas ... your Irish source is interesting but then there was a lot of travel, firstly form Ireland to Scotland but much later in the reverse direction. This is probable how your "J" arrived in Co Down.
Apart from that, I am not that knowledgeable on mtDNA yet.
BTW, in my mutations below I state 195t which should have been 295t, as you are.
From: J-mtDNA@yahoogroups .com [mailto:J-mtDNA@ yahoogroups. com]On Behalf Of Harry Watson
Sent: Sunday, 16 December 2007 11:09 PM
To: J-mtDNA@yahoogroups .com
Subject: RE: [J-mtDNA] J subclades
Dennis, I'm grateful for your post, as it helps to
clear up my own confusion.
I originally tested with Oxford Ancestors, who test
only the HVR1 region. They concluded that I was a
"Jasmine", i.e. mtDNA haplogroup J.
Bryan Sykes of OA distinguishes between Land Jasmines
who came to the British Isles overland through Europe,
and Oceanic Jasmines who came by the seaways. He gives
modal values for both haplotypes, and I don't match
either of them. I fed my results into mitosearch,
which told me I was J*.
I've now tested with FTDNA, and the full results for
both regions are as follows:
My earliest known mitochondrial ancestor was my 3 x
great-grandmother Jane Murray, born circa 1794 in the
Co. Down, Northern Ireland.
I'm aware of matches or partial matches with Scottish
and Irish ancestry, but now I'm also discovering
matches in Norway and Russia. A Russian correspondent
assures me I am J1c1, like himself. This seems to be
identical with what Stephen Oppenheimer, in "The
Origins of the British", calls J1b1. In the map on
page 214 of his book he shows the alleged route the
J1b1 people took from Norway into the British Isles.
All very confusing! I would be grateful for any
comments or advice.
--- Dennis Wright <scorpion@netconnect .com.au> wrote:
> Hi Pete,
> Looks like Snap!
> I have:-
> The 16069c and 16126c gives us 'J'
> 462t = 'J1'
> 185a and 228g = 'J1'
> 185a, 188g and 16519c ='J1c1'
> So where is your earliest ancestor from?
> Mine is Ann McCredie Cotton b 1818 Hamilton, Lanark,
> Dennis Wright
> R1b1c* Irish Type III
> mt DNA J1c1
> Ysearch/mitosearch ID 6PWCD
> -----Original Message-----
> From: J-mtDNA@yahoogroups .com
> [mailto:J-mtDNA@yahoogroups .com]On Behalf Of
> Sent: Sunday, 16 December 2007 2:09 PM
> To: J-mtDNA@yahoogroups .com
> Subject: [J-mtDNA] J subclades
> Jim! I was looking at your 2nd draft of the J Hg
> tree. I want to make
> sure I am interpreting the tree correctly.
> Among other mutations, I have 16519 in HVR1 and
> 185 and 188 in HVR2.
> Does this suggest I may be J1C1? I have been
> classified J* by FTDNA.
> Pete Jeschke
> Ydna I1a
> mtdna J*