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« on: November 24, 2006, 11:49:01 AM »

Do you have research/information/comments to add to this genealogical line?  Feel free to post and please indicate your sources!!
http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/carson/pats

    *  C-13  Joseph Carson, d c1817 Adams Co MS, m Caroline Charlotte Green - William Waller Carson IV [wcarson AT ti.com]
          o James Green Carson, b 1815 MS, d 1863, m Catherine B Waller
                + William Waller Carson, b 1845 MS
                + James Green Carson, b 1846/7 KY
                + Edward L Carson, b 1848/9 KY
                + Catherine B Carson, b 1853/4 LA
                + Joseph Carson, b 1843 KY, d 1902
                      # William Waller Carson, b 1895, d 1989
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« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2006, 11:57:06 AM »

William Waller Carson b 1845 was well known for his writing.  Some links:

http://www.lib.utk.edu/spcoll/manuscripts/2731.htm

http://www.davidson.edu/administrative/library/archives/archivesdb/DC0166s.htm

James Green Carson
The Airlie Plantation was owned and operated by James Green Carson, who moved across the Mississippi River from Canebrake Plantation in Adams County, Mississippi, around 1846 with his wife Catherine Waller Carson and family. The Carsons fled to Texas during the Civil War, and James Green Carson died of diphtheria in Tyler, Texas.
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/taro/utcah/00382/cah-00382.html

Photos of Dr. James Green Carson (1815-1863) and his wife and his mother.
http://www.tnportraits.org/tsla-index.htm#c
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« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2007, 12:17:51 PM »

1850 in The Western District, Carroll Parish, Louisiana:
J G Carson 34 MS planter 30,000
Catharine 25 KY
Joseph 7 KY
W W 5 KY
James 4 KY
E L KY

1860 in Pecan Grove, Carroll Parish, Louisiana:
James G Carson "Snr" 45 MS planter & MD 204,000/189,062 [A LOT of money]
Catherine B Carson 45 KY
Joseph Carson 16 KY student
William W Carson 14 MS
James G Carson Jnr 13 KY
Edward L Carson 11 KY
Catherine B Carson 6 LA
Erasmus D Baker 29 NY teacher 0/400
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« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2007, 12:37:33 PM »

http://www.rootsweb.com/~msadams/wills-idx.htm

Wills in Adams County, Mississippi:

18 Apr 1817
Joseph Carsons Will
Mississippi territory, Washington County, I make this my last will and testament. I give to my wife Caroline Charlotte Carson, a tract of land in Fee Simple lying on Thompson's Creek, being half of a Tract of a thousand arfunts divided between her Brother James Green and myself. I also give to my wife my Gig and Gig-horse and all my house and kitchen furniture, my Executors are instructed to sell my two tracts of land in Jefferson County, either at public or private sale and to vest the proceeds in whatever property they may deem most advantages to the Estate. I give to my natural daughter by Mrs. Johnson on Pascagoula, formerly Patsy Brewer, my undivided part of the land, whereon my Mother now lives, forever, on her arriving at legal age or marrying, but if she should die before legal age or marriage, the said land is to revert to my legal heirs. The residence of my property not specifically devised after the payments of debts is to be equally divided between my wife Caroline Charlotte Carson, my little son James Green Carson and the infant with which my wife is now pregnant-except that in taking her equal distribution share of the negroes my wife is entitled to take Mima and Priscilla and their increase other....value being ....to each of my children so to make legatees share of negro property equal.  It is my wish that my brother-in-law James Green should advise and aid my wife in the education of my children.  I hereby appoint my brother-in-law James Green and wife Caroline Charlotte Carson Executors of this my last will and testament with my hand and seal this eighteenth of April one thousand eight hundred and seventeen, "and their increase" interlined before signed.  Joseph Carson (Seal)
Attest: Wm Baldwin  Robt Catter, B. George Buchanan


The Last Will and Testament of Caroline C. Carson
In the name of God Amen.

I Caroline C. Carson of the County of Adams and State of Mississippi being of sound mind though feeble in body do make, publish and declare this my last will and testament that is to say
Imprivines, I give and bequeath unto my Brother James Green of the Grove in said county, my woman slaves Judy and Priscilla, my carriage and carriage horses and the sum of two thousand dollars to be held in trust to and for the use and purpose hereafter mentioned, viz; the said slave Judy my carriage and carriage horses and the sum of one thousand dollars to and for the use and benefit of my sister Eliza C. Woods during her natural life; and the said slave Priscilla, together with the sum of one thousand dollars which I desire the said trustee may lay outs in the purchase of a house servant and cook, to and for the use and benefits of my sister Matilda S. Railey; and it is my desire and I do hereby empower, the said trustee, at the request of my Sisters aforesaid each in her own case to sell or otherwise dispose of the said property holding the proceeds in either case subject to the use and trust before mentioned.
Item, I give and bequeath my Sisters Eliza C. Woods and Matilda S. Railey in equal portions to each all my household furniture of every description, jewelry and wearing apparel now at the grove where I at present reside.
Item, I give and bequeath to my brother James Green and to my Sisters Eliza C. Wood and Matilda S. Railey, the Sum of five hundred dollars to be by them distributed if they shall deem it expedient among my slaves, on the first day of January after my decease in such proportions as they think proper having reference to the merits of the said slaves; and if they shall not deem it expedient to distribute the said sum of five hundred dollars, or a less sum which they are hereby empowered to do; then the said Legacy to be void; And I furthermore make it my request that a small sum be distributed among the said slaves annually thereafter until my son James G. Carson attains his majority.
Item I give and bequeath the entire remainder of my real and personal estate to my beloved son James G. Carson with a desire that he will comply with the following request of his affectionate mother.
1st That the slaves Jesse, Mima, Jinney and Suckey be favored as much as possible in relation to labour so long as they continue to deserve it.
2nd That the slave Ned Morris, should he as heretofore continue faithful and deserving be emancipated on his attaining the age of thirty agt years and the the sum of five hundred dollars be then given him.  I desire it to be expressly understood that Ned's emancipation is to depend on his faithfulness in the discharge of his duty and that of this my Brother James Green and my son James are both or either of them to be the Judges. If my brother and son should neither of them survive until Ned attains the age of thirty eight then it is my request that his emancipation and outfite of five hundred dollars depends on the decision of my said sisters Elza C. Woods and Matilda S. Raily or the survivors of them.
3rd If Ned Morris be deemed worthy and receive emancipation at the time theresaid that his wife Suckey, if they should remain until that emacipated and she should continue faithful and deserving, be emancipated with him.
Item I hereby appoint my Brother James Green and my son James G. Carson Executors of this my Last Will and Testament and I request them or either of them, if they shall deem it proper and secure advantageous offers therein to sell my tracts of lands lying on the waters of the Pine Woods Creek and the .... In Wilkinson County and also my lots of land adjoining land of William N. Mercer in the County of Adams contains about Sixty five acres and to  est the proceeds in the best manner for the interest of my son.
Given under my hands at the Gove aforesaid this seventh day of July AD 1831
   Caroline C. Carson (Seal)

Signed sealed Published and declared
as the last will and testament of the testator
in presence of
 John Hutchins
 Wm. K. Wilson
 Henry Wm Huntington
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« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2007, 12:50:33 PM »

1818 Tax Roll, Received July 6th, 1818
CARSON, Caroline C.
CARSON, Joseph, Estate of
CARSON, Samuel M.
CARSON, Thomas D.
CARSON, William
GREEN, Charles B.
GREEN, Hiram
GREEN, James
GREEN, Maryh (2)
GREEN, Richard M.

1820 Adams, MS
GREEN, James 0001 - 00000
CARSON, Est Jos only slaves

1830 Adams, MS
CARSON, Caroline C  0001 - 0000 01

1840 Adams, MS
CARSON, James G 3000 11 - 0000 02
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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2009, 02:34:24 PM »

This Carson lineage is R1b1, Western European.  It does not connect with the I2b1 lines for many thousands of years back.

C-13 and C-23 are 36/37 matches and their common ancestor could be just a couple hundred years back, though the paper trail has not yet confirmed who it is.

C-14 is a 33/37 match so their common ancestor could be within a thousand years, but the paper trail has not yet confirmed who it is and likely never will.

Further speculation on Haplogroup R - Lineage I should go here:
http://www.worldfamilies.net/forum/index.php?topic=8401.0
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