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Maliclavelli
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« on: December 18, 2013, 01:09:55 AM »

Rootsi et al, Phylogenetic applications of whole Y-chromosome sequences and the Near Eastern origin of Ashkenazi Levites,  Nature Communications 4, Article number: 2928 doi:10.1038/ncomms3928

At last we'll have the solution also for hg. R-Z2105, because they tested many Jewish R-Z2105 and we'll be able to see their relation with Europeans and with me too who are in that line.
Anyway the time of hg. R are what I have said: many thousands of years. We'll be able to count them exactly.

P.S. The SNPs come from only 8,97Mbp not from the Full Y, thus the dates are higher, we don't know how much.


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« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2013, 04:54:30 AM »

Now we know that the Kurdish Jew (16881) is an R-Z2110, with the SNPs Z2103/Z2104/Z2105/Z2107 before the separation from the other 2 lines (Turkish Jew 16133 and Moroccan Jew 16886 by one side and  the Assyrian 13750 on the other).
The mutations  Z2106/Z2109/Z2110 should be on his line (together with many others of course). It would lack only the SNP Z2108, probably out of this 8,97Mbp.
But Z2110 has been found so far above all in East Europe till the Isles and perhaps in some Gypsy lines. Difficult to say if it is an ancient Jewish line or an introgressed one.
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« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2013, 05:09:59 AM »

The Assyrian 13750 is an R-L584. Thus the other Jewish line (Turkish Jew 16133 and Moroccan Jew 16886) isn't either Z2110 nor L584.
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« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2013, 05:23:57 AM »

The R-L584 should derive from the R-Z2103/Z2104/Z2105/Z2107  (we don't know about Z2108) but not Z2106. Then the Tuscan of 1KGP (NA20532) is on the line which brings to Z2110 but not to L584, where are probably Carnevali with its PF7580.

P.S. But if Z2108 is with Z2109 in NA20866, it is on the line which brings to Z2110.
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