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Adrian Ballard
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« on: November 04, 2013, 05:57:07 PM »

Hi fellow L11*/P310*

and welcome to our project page forum :-)

http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/r1b1a2a1a
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R1b1a2a1a1*   R1b-L11*    P310+ U106- P312-
Ancestry - John Ballard b. abt 1480 Herefordshire, England, Uk.
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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2013, 02:12:55 AM »

Hello,

I am new to this project.  I understand that this haplogroup is supposed to have originated in Armenia.  My earliest known male-line ancestor was born in Armenia in about 1580 AD (and died in Persia).  His first name was Zohrab, and his clan name was Manuchariants.  No surname, as such, I think.

So I suppose that we were the ones who stayed behind, while your ancestors went and colonised Europe?
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« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2013, 12:30:04 AM »

zohrab, click on the link above if you haven't already seen the front page, there is a whole area, the South Baltic region, that is being explored.  Welcome.
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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2013, 02:09:49 AM »

MCloyd, there must be some misunderstanding.  I was invited to join this project because of my Y-DNA haplogroup -- not because I am connected to the South Baltic. 

The Home Page states that this (sub-)haplogroup originated around Armenia, not in the South Baltic.  Some of your ancestors may have lived in the South Baltic, but it appears that none of my male-line ancestors did, because they stayed in Armenia, while maybe your ancestors went to Europe, including the South Baltic.
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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2013, 01:26:22 PM »

Hi Zorab & Mcloyd

As Zorab as said the current thinking is that L11*P310* first appeared around the area of Armenia some estimated 4500 to 6000 years ago - I have also seen a website (lol) claim that is came from an area midway between Moscow & St Petersburg on the Baltic coast - but no sources and I have no proof of that myself

Adrian
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R1b1a2a1a1*   R1b-L11*    P310+ U106- P312-
Ancestry - John Ballard b. abt 1480 Herefordshire, England, Uk.
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« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2013, 06:23:14 AM »

Hi Zorab & Mcloyd

As Zorab as said the current thinking is that L11*P310* first appeared around the area of Armenia some estimated 4500 to 6000 years ago - I have also seen a website (lol) claim that is came from an area midway between Moscow & St Petersburg on the Baltic coast - but no sources and I have no proof of that myself

Adrian
R-M269 seems native to Ural or Altaï, it is possible that his mutations use several different roads.
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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2013, 11:32:41 AM »

Gallard,

Thank you for the clarification.
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