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« on: September 17, 2013, 07:50:17 AM »

Here is some info on the new Chromo2 test from BritainsDNA.

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What is the difference between the Standard DNA tests and Chromo 2 tests?

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posted this on Jun 11 16:03

Our Standard tests look for over 350 SNP markers to determine your haplogroup and subtype and the three most common red head variants that you might carry. This test provides you with a report that links historical narrative and your DNA markers that can trace where your ancestors travelled to after their exodus out of Africa.

Our Chromo2 tests are much more advanced. We test your DNA for over 15,000 markers on the Y-chromosome and all known branches (over 3,000 markers) of the mitochondrial DNA tree. These markers have been hand picked by our Chief Scientific Officer, Dr. Jim Wilson, to test DNA markers for European ancestry Our Chromo2 test offers a brand new product, called All My Ancestry. Here we analyse your autosomes, located on chromosomes 1 to 22, in order to find out about the origins of your many ancestral lineages. Lastly, Chromo2 identifies all known variants (over 40) of red hair-determining MC1R gene, with our Red Head trait test. Please click here to see the differences between our tests in a table format.


http://support.britainsdna.com/entries/24112968-What-is-the-difference-between-the-Standard-DNA-tests-and-Chromo-2-tests-

Sounds pretty good.
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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2013, 08:09:16 AM »

More info.

http://www.britainsdna.com/products/complete
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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2013, 09:11:46 PM »

Will there be somewhere to upload data for analysis as was done for the Geno 2 test.?
I ordered the test and will mail the kit back tomorrow. I am DF13** unassigned group and hope to find a new snp
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« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2013, 09:07:51 AM »

Will there be somewhere to upload data for analysis as was done for the Geno 2 test.?
I ordered the test and will mail the kit back tomorrow. I am DF13** unassigned group and hope to find a new snp

David Reynolds is soliciting the results for analysis.

http://daver.info/geno/

I know that link talks about Geno 2.0 results, but David is also seeking Chromo2 results now.
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« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2013, 08:28:50 PM »

I now have the Chromo2 y-dna test on order.
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« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2013, 09:23:45 PM »

I now have the Chromo2 y-dna test on order.

How much did it cost in U.S. currency if you don't mind me asking?
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« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2013, 07:41:12 AM »

I now have the Chromo2 y-dna test on order.

How much did it cost in U.S. currency if you don't mind me asking?

It's $179 for returning Ethnoancestry customers and $199 for brand new customers. That's just for the y-dna data, excluding the web page with maps, historical interpretation,  and everything.

I tested with Ethnoancestry back in 2006, so I'm a returning customer.
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« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2013, 11:39:31 AM »

I now have the Chromo2 y-dna test on order.

How much did it cost in U.S. currency if you don't mind me asking?

It's $179 for returning Ethnoancestry customers and $199 for brand new customers. That's just for the y-dna data, excluding the web page with maps, historical interpretation,  and everything.

I tested with Ethnoancestry back in 2006, so I'm a returning customer.

That's really not that bad of a price.  I have been toying with the idea.  I think if one is of British ancestry, it might be the way to go for now because of the access Dr. Wilson has to British samples.
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« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2013, 09:34:15 PM »

I now have the Chromo2 y-dna test on order.

How much did it cost in U.S. currency if you don't mind me asking?

It's $179 for returning Ethnoancestry customers and $199 for brand new customers. That's just for the y-dna data, excluding the web page with maps, historical interpretation,  and everything.

I tested with Ethnoancestry back in 2006, so I'm a returning customer.

That's really not that bad of a price.  I have been toying with the idea.  I think if one is of British ancestry, it might be the way to go for now because of the access Dr. Wilson has to British samples.

That was my thinking, too.

It's an especially good deal for those of us of British Isles ancestry, but they also have 1000 Genomes data and data from 500 Dutch genomes, as well.
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« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2013, 09:42:01 PM »

I now have the whole "Chromo2 Complete" on order, which includes y-dna (and the web page with maps, etc., that go with it), mtDNA, autosomal dna, and the "Red Head" test, which tests for all 40 MC1R red hair variants.

It seems too good a deal to pass up.

http://www.britainsdna.com/products/complete
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« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2013, 08:35:42 PM »

I have tested most of the downstream SNP'S from DF13, all negative.  I only have L679, CTS2457.2, CTS4466 and possibly CTS3386 to go as far as I know.  Now my question; should I hold off and test either GENO2 and/or CHROMO2 before going any further.  How much hype vs usefulness is CHROMO2?  I feel that I have been shooting in the dark and spending money I do not really have to spare.  Charlie Warthen DF13*    U3a1a 
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« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2013, 09:53:39 PM »

I have tested most of the downstream SNP'S from DF13, all negative.  I only have L679, CTS2457.2, CTS4466 and possibly CTS3386 to go as far as I know.  Now my question; should I hold off and test either GENO2 and/or CHROMO2 before going any further.  How much hype vs usefulness is CHROMO2?  I feel that I have been shooting in the dark and spending money I do not really have to spare.  Charlie Warthen DF13*    U3a1a  

Well, Chromo2 has over 15k SNPs, many of them new, and is backed by BritainsDNA's extensive British Isles database. It includes all of the SNPs on ISOGG's tree (Geno 2.0 does not) plus many new ones that are awaiting analysis and placement on the tree. So, Chromo2 is superior to Geno 2.0.

Short of ordering a full y genome test (cost: about $1300), Chromo2 is the best y-dna SNP test available.
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« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2013, 09:14:45 PM »

Here's a list of the L21+ guys who have ordered at least the Chromo2 Y-DNA Raw:

Brunet f198135 (L21>DF13)
Buchanan f200481 (L21+ untested for DF13)
Chambers fN22147 (L21+ untested for DF13)
Harrington f109174 (L21>DF13>Z251)
Le Gall f233265 (L21>DF13>Z253>Z2534)
MacMillan f47694 (L21>DF13>DF41)
Reynolds f20437 (L21>DF13>DF21>Z246>DF25>DF5>CTS3655)
Stevens f59080 (L21>DF13>DF41)
Walsh fN54638 (L21>DF13>L513>L706.2>L705.2)
Wheeler f289737 (L21>DF13)
Wigand f65932 (L21>DF13)
Wilson f19822 (L21+, otherwise unknown - not in the R-L21 Plus Project)
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« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2013, 04:37:55 PM »

I have been following the comments about Chromo2 on the various message boards for about 4 months now, since it appeared to be an ideal test for me to further define my Y DNA at a reasonable cost.

In the past, I had thought I had read that  some of the initial results were expected in September, but have not seen any results posted yet.  I am most interested if the chip is getting accurate results for DF27.  It may be that many DF27+ individuals do not have an Isles ancestry and so may decide not take this test, but I presume even a negative result is better than a no call so would like to see some results.  I will probably order this test around Christmas. 

Any comments on Chromo2 for Irish (Munster) DF27* and potential discovery of downstream SNPs?
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« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2013, 10:09:22 AM »

Some results have already appeared, but I do not know about all of them.

I have not heard from any DF27+ guys about Chromo2, so I can't comment on that.
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« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2013, 03:00:33 PM »

Hi Stevo

There is at least one individual on another forum, “Corner” from Yorkshire, who is DF27* (Rox2) and who has indicated he has tested with Chromo2. I do not believe he has results yet.  

I know there appears to be a big GD difference (16) between Rox2 (3QNM8) and “Dywer/Ryan” (C8WMT) haplotypes, but his results will be interesting for apparent DF27* individuals in the British Isles especially if there are any common unique sub SNPs.

Mike
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« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2013, 04:26:31 PM »

Hi Steve

There is at least one individual on another forum, “Corner” from Yorkshire, who is DF27* (Rox2) and who has indicated he has tested with Chromo2. I do not believe he has results yet. 

I know there appears to be a big GD difference (16) between Rox2 (3QNM8) and “Dywer/Ryan” (C8WMT) haplotypes, but his results will be interesting for apparent DF27* individuals in the British Isles especially if there are any common unique sub SNPs.

Mike

David Reynolds posted on Facebook yesterday that four L165 guys tested with BritainsDNA and two came back with 10 previously unknown snps.  The other two negative for the 10.  The 10 snps were probably not unknown to BritainsDNA, most likely just not shared.  Since L165 is downstream of DF27, I would say it might be worth the money.  I think on average DF27 is around 9% in Britain.
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« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2013, 08:47:24 AM »

David Reynolds posted on Facebook yesterday that four L165 guys tested with BritainsDNA and two came back with 10 previously unknown snps.  The other two negative for the 10.  The 10 snps were probably not unknown to BritainsDNA, most likely just not shared.  Since L165 is downstream of DF27, I would say it might be worth the money.  I think on average DF27 is around 9% in Britain.

Hi Webb,

Thanks for this update.  I will be interested in seeing if the DF27 SNP was detected in Chromo2 for these and other individuals.  
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« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2013, 12:49:13 AM »


Yes thanks Webb

I am terminal clade SNP L165 (DF27, Z196, L 178.2, L165) and as I mentioned in other posts the L165 group is divided into two clusters, one in England and one in the Hebrideas of Scotland.  I wonder which cluster the positive L165 Chromo2 Test member came from?  Is this new SNP something that FTDNA will have avaible? 
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« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2013, 11:46:12 PM »


Yes thanks Webb

I am terminal clade SNP L165 (DF27, Z196, L 178.2, L165) and as I mentioned in other posts the L165 group is divided into two clusters, one in England and one in the Hebrideas of Scotland.  I wonder which cluster the positive L165 Chromo2 Test member came from?  Is this new SNP something that FTDNA will have avaible? 

From what I understand one from each cluster is positive for the additional snps and one from each cluster negative.  Unfortunately these results don't clear up any questions in regard to the two geographic clusters in Britain of L165.
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« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2013, 10:35:41 AM »

I am very interested in the results of several individuals now testing Chromo2.  For us DF13* who have tested all major SNP below and have come up empty, hopes are high for this and the full Y test.  When will the results begin to appear?
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« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2013, 02:05:52 PM »

Some of the results have started trickling in, but all I have heard about has concerned M222 individuals. We should start getting some new results anytime now.
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« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2013, 09:16:07 PM »

I got an email from BritainsDNA a couple of days ago saying that my Chromo2 Complete results were back from the lab at the end of last week and that I should be seeing them "imminently". I was hoping I would see them by today, but no such luck.

Maybe Monday?

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« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2013, 10:57:22 AM »

I got an email from BritainsDNA a couple of days ago saying that my Chromo2 Complete results were back from the lab at the end of last week and that I should be seeing them "imminently". I was hoping I would see them by today, but no such luck.

Maybe Monday?



Any luck on that? Or still pending?

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« Reply #24 on: November 18, 2013, 04:02:16 PM »

I got an email from BritainsDNA a couple of days ago saying that my Chromo2 Complete results were back from the lab at the end of last week and that I should be seeing them "imminently". I was hoping I would see them by today, but no such luck.

Maybe Monday?



Any luck on that? Or still pending?

-Paul
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I just got the results today.

There's a massive list of SNPs, but among them I am S524+ (DF41+). It's nice to have that confirmed by a second testing company.

I am forwarding my y-dna raw data to David Reynolds for analysis.

My newly minted mtDNA haplogroup is U5a2c3. Before today, all I knew was U5a2.

I am a carrier of the red hair variant Arg160Trp, but I already knew that from my Family Finder raw results. But that too is nice to have confirmed by a second testing company.

The "All My Ancestry" autosomal results are still forthcoming.
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