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Maliclavelli
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« on: August 01, 2013, 11:51:55 AM »

The recent paper of A. Olivieri et al., Mitogenomes from Two Uncommon Haplogroups Mark Late Glacial/Postglacial Expansion from the Near east and Neolithic Dispersals within Europe, PLOS One, July 2013, not only states what we are being adfirming from many years (that if there was expansion from Middle East it happens so long ago, after the LGM and Neolithic, I'd say after the Younger Dryas as I am saying, and that Europe was peopled by inner moves rather than inputs from outside, and you know that for me these inner moves came from Italy above all), but, taking in consideration two rare halogroups (I and W), what we are doing from many years, they try to understand these inner moves.
What about these haplogroups, derived from N?
 
"Our results showed that haplogroups  N1a1b1, I and W most probably originated in the Near East during the Last Glacial Maximum [...] and, like J  and T, may have been involved in Late Glacial expansion starting from the Near East" (p. 3).
But which is the surprise?
"Moreover, at least nine paraphyletic mitogenomes (mainly from the Near East) do not fall within any of the seven major subclades of haplogroup W. In particular, the Italian sample #223, bearing a single reversion of the defining control-region variant at position 16292, might even possibly radiate before the root of the entire haplogroup W. However, the hypothesis of a founder haplotype from central Italy remains enigmatic and would need further evidence to be properly supported" ( p. 10)

In the 1KGP there are 4 hg. W in Tuscans:
NA20503  W4*
NA20762 W5a1a
NA20804 W6a
and this NA20510 W*

A73G A189G T195C T204c G207A A263G G709A A750G T1243C A1438G A2706G A3505G A4093G A4769G G5046A G5460A C7028T G8251A T8614C A8860G G8994A C11674T G11719A A11947G T12414C C12705T C14766T A15326G G15884C C16192T C16223T A16309G T16325C T16519C




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YDNA: R-S12460


MtDNA: K1a1b1e

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« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2013, 01:11:13 PM »

I thought that the sample from Central Italy was that from Tuscany from 1KGP, but not, it is this from Umbria (KF146293). How many surprises!

 
211   Tor778   W   Near East   Iran, Khuzistan   KF146291   This Study        
212   JQ702358   W         JQ702358   [2]   22482806     
213   JQ245759   W   Near East   Turkey   JQ245759   [3]   22284828     
214   JQ245778   W   Near East   Yemen   JQ245778   [3]   22284828     
215   NA19776   W   USA   USA, Mexican origin      1000 Genomes Project        
 220   Tor776   W   Near East   Iran, Gilan   KF146292   This Study        
221   JQ702989   W         JQ702989   [2]   22482806     
222   EU086510   W   Unknown   -   EU086510   Family Tree DNA   Direct Submission     
223   Tor775   W   Europe West   Italy, Umbria   KF146293   This Study      

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