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Maliclavelli
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« on: June 22, 2013, 03:58:41 AM »

From Boattini et al. 2013 we have 5 haplotypes from Sardinia: 3 R-M269* and 2 R-L23*.
Olbia Tempio/Nuoro, tested 40:  R-M269* (5%)
                                                                  1 R-L23* (2,5%)

Oristano, tested 42: 1 R-M269* (2,38%)
                                          1 R-L23* (2,38%)
The R-L23* of Oristano is an outlier:
 
864   Oristano   12   23   16   10   12   14   12   12   13   13   13   29   16   15   19   13   15   12   23   R1b1b2-M269 (xP311)      

These are the markers values in YHRD format:
16 13-29 23 10 13 12 12-14
No close match on YHRD. The closest are some Chinese but with DYS438=10, then some Asian haplogroup.
The other R-L23 from Sardinia (Olbia Tempio/Nuoro) is this:
 
806   OlbiaTempio/Nuoro   12   25   14   10   12   14   12   12   12   13   13   29   17   15   19   13   15   12   23   R1b1b2-M269 (xP311)      

in YHRD format
14 13-29 25 10 13 12 12-14
My haplotype is this (Gioiello Tognoni: KV7Y2, Pisa, Italy):
15 13-29 24 10 13 12 11-14
We clearly see that these haplotypes are ancient R-L23 of the Tyrrhenian coast  from which probably arose the subclades of R-L23. We may hypothesize that the ancestral values of my haplotype were:
15 13-29 24 10 13 12 12-14
The haplotype from Oristano is an outlier. Also the R-L51* was an outlier:
14 13-29 24 11 13 13 11-14
but with more luck.
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Maliclavelli


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MtDNA: K1a1b1e

Maliclavelli
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« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2013, 05:46:47 AM »

And how is an outlier this R-L51* from Pistoia? And there the R-L51 could be the 7,69%: 1 out 13 people tested:
377   Pistoia   14   23   14   11   11   14   13   13   12   13   13   29   16   15   19   12   15   13   23   R1b1b2-M269 (xP311)   

DYS393=14
DYS390=23
DYS426=13 (like all the others)
DYS388=13
DYS438=13

Probably many surprises could come from Tuscans!
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