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« on: May 31, 2013, 02:22:45 PM »

Okay. Here is something I find interesting. I have 2.9% Neanderthal DNA and where the samples were allegedly taken from is near Varazdin, Croatia. So here is my big question: Why is R1b never found in Europe during the age of the Neanderthal that went extinct by around 30,000 years ago. Yet R1b is allegedly not that old and its origins is somewhere much further east. How is it possible that I have 2.9% of DNA belonging to Neanderthal when my ancestor subclade of R was non-existent or was just emerging somewhere on the eastern Asian steppes?

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« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2013, 03:24:27 PM »

The Neanderthal DNA is found within autosomal DNA, not within the Y-DNA.
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« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2013, 03:34:38 PM »

The Neanderthal DNA is found within autosomal DNA, not within the Y-DNA.

But what does that mean? Somebody in my line had to interact with the Neanderthal in order to have that autosomal DNA. Are you telling me that my 2.9% is from my maternal line?

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« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2013, 03:44:58 PM »


But what does that mean? Somebody in my line had to interact with the Neanderthal in order to have that autosomal DNA. Are you telling me that my 2.9% is from my maternal line?

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It's autosomal, it could come from 1000's of your lines (1 is extremely unlikely) OR it could be a ghost that exists due to modern man and Neanderthals having a common ancestor.
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« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2013, 02:42:23 AM »


But what does that mean? Somebody in my line had to interact with the Neanderthal in order to have that autosomal DNA. Are you telling me that my 2.9% is from my maternal line?

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It's autosomal, it could come from 1000's of your lines (1 is extremely unlikely) OR it could be a ghost that exists due to modern man and Neanderthals having a common ancestor.

Hmm, I'm wondering about the latter option since most humans do not have more than 4%. I just find it intriguing that its DNA was extracted in Croatia, which would mean sometime beyond 30,000 years ago a precursor to perhaps to haplogroup P may have been around or near Europe. Or maybe it was at a time when MNOPS existed around the Middle East?

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