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Maliclavelli
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« on: April 20, 2014, 05:10:32 AM »

TWM4S   Isoppo   Italy    
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75NSA   J2s Southern & Eastern Europe + British Isles   734 persons, Italy
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U7M3V   Colhoun Donegal, Ireland    
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Dear friend, unfortunately I have anything to do with Isoppo. I am Gioiello Tognoni, the theorist of the "Italian Refugium" of hg. R1b1, but probably also J2 could have come from Italy. I found Isoppo's data on SMGF and put them on Ysearch for studying them. Isoppo is a Brazilian of Italian (Ligurian) descent, but perhaps you know that it isn't possible to contact them.
Your haplotype is very rare and doesn't find any close match on Ysearch, but certainly Isoppo is very close to you, like this J2 extracted from Italian samples. It is to deepen the link with these Abrahams at 8 markers level.
I'd say that certainly your recent origin by the Y are Italian and closely linked to Isoppo, but we should know which is the origin of these Ligurians, place on the sea, thus with any possible link with the Mediterranean.
Stay in touch with me, above all if you may do some deeper tests about your haplogroup.

Kind Regards, Gioiello Tognoni

Questo messaggio potrebbe non essere stato inviato da: janarratta@gmail.com
Jan Arratta
Email: janarratta@gmail.com
Message: Hi. My uncle appears to be very close genetically and I was wondering if you might be able to give me more information on 'Isoppo". Our family name is Colhoun/Colquhoun from Ireland/Scotland, but according to my uncles J2 we are not part of that family. I would like to know how these changes have come to our family, but need more information.
Regards
Jan
Australia
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Maliclavelli


YDNA: R-S12460


MtDNA: K1a1b1e

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« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2014, 05:20:24 AM »

I apologize. The warning of phishing from Gmail was wrong. This person is authentic:

FTDNA kit number 323275
« Last Edit: April 30, 2014, 04:06:54 PM by Terry Barton » Logged

Maliclavelli


YDNA: R-S12460


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« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2014, 05:41:27 AM »

Jan Arratta
Email: janarratta@gmail.com
Message: Hi. My uncle appears to be very close genetically and I was wondering if you might be able to give me more information on 'Isoppo". Our family name is Colhoun/Colquhoun from Ireland/Scotland, but according to my uncles J2 we are not part of that family. I would like to know how these changes have come to our family, but need more information.
Regards
Jan
Australia

Of course the link with Isoppo is very close, but we need more data to calculate the MRCA and it isn't said that your line doesn't come from Ireland. The link could be old and not recent. The markers in common between SMGF and FTDNA aren't enough for calculating the MRCA, and there are other factors that should be taken into account.

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Maliclavelli


YDNA: R-S12460


MtDNA: K1a1b1e

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« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2014, 05:51:23 AM »

If there is someone who has something to say about my use of these data, I say that I give my advices for free and my purpose is the truth, only the truth by a scientific point of view, and if someone hasn't my same purpose, he/she would do better in not asking my advices.
I have people whom I found  his/her true parents to and they gave me access to all their accounts.
I gave and give my advices for free, but with all these data I constructed all my theories.
« Last Edit: April 30, 2014, 04:07:33 PM by Terry Barton » Logged

Maliclavelli


YDNA: R-S12460


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