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Bren123
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« on: February 20, 2013, 05:52:13 PM »

Hi All!
 I'm trying to find a paper which showed the common ancestor for a group of R1b basque date to  circa 4000 ybp. It was oringinally on Jeans,The Peopling of Europe!
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« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2013, 06:16:34 PM »

You may be thinking of this one, but it's not very recent and a lot has been learned since.

http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2007/02/ancient-basque-dna.html

They found M153 there, but as it's turned out, M153 isn't nearly as early as once believed, and these remains are within a couple hundred years of the calculated age of that mutation.  Kind of neat, actually -- but not 4000 ybp.

There was a 2006 paper about mtDNA from the same Basque cemetery, but it didn't discuss R1b as far as I know.
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« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2013, 04:38:48 AM »

You may be thinking of this one, but it's not very recent and a lot has been learned since.

http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2007/02/ancient-basque-dna.html

They found M153 there, but as it's turned out, M153 isn't nearly as early as once believed, and these remains are within a couple hundred years of the calculated age of that mutation.  Kind of neat, actually -- but not 4000 ybp.

There was a 2006 paper about mtDNA from the same Basque cemetery, but it didn't discuss R1b as far as I know.

Thanks but that isn't the one I was thiinking about!
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