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jerome72
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« on: November 24, 2012, 12:57:49 PM »

Bonjour (sorry for my english)

With a PDF of Alex Williamson, I discovered a haplotype close to mine.
His name is ANDERSON, his ancestor is Scottish or Irisch, ysearch j6d4q, mine: cwmyf

Genetique distance is 15 to 64 markers, which is not extraordinary, but the comparison of our haplotypes with the modal of L21 (our common haplogroup), shows strange similarities!
(See attached image: green, our markers identical but different from the L21 modal, blue: different or divergent values​​, yellow: convergent value but not strictly identical)
I think the coincidence would be difficult to provide such a similarity.
So I ordered 111 markers to confirm or deny a possible relationship.
Anderson have six mutations (for markers from 67 to 111) relative to the L21 modal.
I hope that I will have at least two similar of the six.
Below, we probably can not conclude anything and, above, then we certainly from the same branch.
I am particularly interrested because my French ancestors did not moved for at least 350 years, then found a kinship with a Scottish or Irish, same old 2000 years is quite new to me!

Do you think we have a connection?
What are your predictions on my new markers tested?


http://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/haplotypes.jpg
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« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2012, 01:06:37 PM »

Even though you have the same mutations in many markers (but as regards a modal which is an artifice anyway), some mutations in some very slow mutating markers could mean that you are separated also from thousands of years. This is my thinking so far, but I'll study more deeply your case.
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MtDNA: K1a1b1e

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« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2012, 01:11:43 PM »

This to say that, if you are separated from thousands of years, your coincidences could be also the true "modal", what many scholars don't care.
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« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2012, 01:18:19 PM »

Anyway the link of France with the Isles about the origin of R-L21 is reliable, but at this point I think that would be more important a deeper SNPs test.
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« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2012, 06:58:26 AM »

Grazie mille, Maliclavelli!

I received the results, and they confirm the previous results:
Two identical markers on 6 which I spoke in my previous message.
I'm really convinced that this is not a coincidence!
I now try to look for other haplotypes with the same features, and it seems on the right track!
I have not yet studied with the necessary rigor, but it seems that three markers are recurring!
Dys385b= 15 or 16
Dys 449 = 28
Dys 511 = 9

À suivre...
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