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« on: November 10, 2012, 06:07:55 PM »

Hi all,

I was waiting to post until I had the results back from my FTDNA Deep Clade test.  Just got them today and my paternal line is:

P312+ L2+ L20- L196- which is 
R1b1a2a1a1b2a on ISOGG 2012,  or R1b1a2a1a1b3c on FTDNA.

I joined FTDNA's "R-U152 and Subclades Research Project" today also.

I've searched for matches on FTDNA and have no matches at 67 markers and the closest at 37 markers are 6 steps away.  Plenty of close matches at 25 markers though. 

On Ysearch, my closest match at 67 markers is a genetic distance of 14, one of which is also a U152 (Zentmyer). 

I've got some rare results at the DYF395S1 loci.  I've looked through a lot of data and haven't come across anyone who has the same DYF395S1 results:  My DYF395S1a=11 and DYF395S12=15.  Ysearch doesn't even have an option to select 11 for DYF395S1a, so I either leave it blank or chose 12 when I search for matches.

My paterrnal line is only known to my great grandfather, Edward Leopold Mitchell, born in London, England in 1893.  He was born illegitimately to Elizabeth Margaret Mitchell (her father was born in Montrose Scotland).  Edward Leopold's father is unknown.  I'm hoping DNA testing will eventually solve this family mystery.
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« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2012, 11:51:01 PM »

Welcome to the forum. If you haven't done so, please test for Z49 or Z367.
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« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2012, 12:52:13 AM »

Just placed the order.  How long does it typically take to get the results?

Thanks for the welcome.
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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2012, 01:49:59 AM »

Just placed the order.  How long does it typically take to get the results?

Thanks for the welcome.

Once your order is batched, you will see a batch number and an "expected" date posted under Pending Lab Results (clickable from your myFTDNA home page whenever any orders are outstanding). Batches are usually created every Wednesday. The expected date is usually pitched around the 7 week mark, but with individual SNPs tests I have had results within 2 weeks, and one came back within 1 week.

I guess it depends on how busy their lab is at a particular time, among other things.
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« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2012, 06:39:39 AM »

In later comments about Wells's presentation and the Geno 2.0 test Bennett said that the GenoChip will report on FOUR new SNPs downstream from M222. Great news for us Northwest Irish.
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« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2012, 08:08:42 AM »

Hi

As said it can vary!

All my SNP tests have mostly taken less than two weeks.  However Delton's Z36  test, kit N4630 has been waiting what seems like months.  I would love to know what batch his test is in?


Just placed the order.  How long does it typically take to get the results?

Thanks for the welcome.
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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2012, 09:48:54 AM »

Hi

As said it can vary!

All my SNP tests have mostly taken less than two weeks.  However Delton's Z36  test, kit N4630 has been waiting what seems like months.  I would love to know what batch his test is in?


Just placed the order.  How long does it typically take to get the results?

Thanks for the welcome.

Brian, thanks for bringing that up. Even though it is in the "Z36 pending" group, there are no pending orders for that kit. I will check with the other admins if they know why.
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« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2012, 10:04:29 AM »

Thanks Richard

I do hope his GenoChip order isn't also an error in Steve's tracker:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ago12PDVxPwwdGVOQWNuSlZad3gycHJOZFloeE85b2c#gid=0


Hi

As said it can vary!

All my SNP tests have mostly taken less than two weeks.  However Delton's Z36  test, kit N4630 has been waiting what seems like months.  I would love to know what batch his test is in?


Just placed the order.  How long does it typically take to get the results?

Thanks for the welcome.

Brian, thanks for bringing that up. Even though it is in the "Z36 pending" group, there are no pending orders for that kit. I will check with the other admins if they know why.
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« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2012, 10:21:17 AM »

Thanks Richard

I do hope his GenoChip order isn't also an error in Steve's tracker:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ago12PDVxPwwdGVOQWNuSlZad3gycHJOZFloeE85b2c#gid=0


Hi

As said it can vary!

All my SNP tests have mostly taken less than two weeks.  However Delton's Z36  test, kit N4630 has been waiting what seems like months.  I would love to know what batch his test is in?


Just placed the order.  How long does it typically take to get the results?

Thanks for the welcome.

Brian, thanks for bringing that up. Even though it is in the "Z36 pending" group, there are no pending orders for that kit. I will check with the other admins if they know why.

Now it makes sense. Perhaps it is in the "Z36 pending" group because Geno 2.0 will cover Z36. Thanks.
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« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2012, 12:17:13 PM »

Greetings Mitchell and welcome to the forum!

You have just inspired me to upgrade my L2+ to Z49.  I just ordered the test.  Richard Rocca will be happy.

Curtis Hays Pigman(Pigmon)
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« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2012, 06:37:51 PM »

Glad I coulld inspire you...I was inspired by someone online back in July to start this journey.

I actually ordered 4 snp tests yesterday:  Z49, Z367, Z142, Z34.  I know that's not the smartest way to do it financially but it will speed things up.

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« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2012, 06:56:42 PM »

Hi Mitchell, welcome to the forum.  And best of luck in finding your paternal roots.  Beyond my Father, my paternal side is also unknown.  So I'm curious to see if deep clade testing helps you.  I am in the process of beginning my search. 

Hi all,

I was waiting to post until I had the results back from my FTDNA Deep Clade test.  Just got them today and my paternal line is:

P312+ L2+ L20- L196- which is 
R1b1a2a1a1b2a on ISOGG 2012,  or R1b1a2a1a1b3c on FTDNA.

I joined FTDNA's "R-U152 and Subclades Research Project" today also.

I've searched for matches on FTDNA and have no matches at 67 markers and the closest at 37 markers are 6 steps away.  Plenty of close matches at 25 markers though. 

On Ysearch, my closest match at 67 markers is a genetic distance of 14, one of which is also a U152 (Zentmyer). 

I've got some rare results at the DYF395S1 loci.  I've looked through a lot of data and haven't come across anyone who has the same DYF395S1 results:  My DYF395S1a=11 and DYF395S12=15.  Ysearch doesn't even have an option to select 11 for DYF395S1a, so I either leave it blank or chose 12 when I search for matches.

My paterrnal line is only known to my great grandfather, Edward Leopold Mitchell, born in London, England in 1893.  He was born illegitimately to Elizabeth Margaret Mitchell (her father was born in Montrose Scotland).  Edward Leopold's father is unknown.  I'm hoping DNA testing will eventually solve this family mystery.
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« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2012, 09:23:21 AM »

I asked Steve and he said the same as you.  Sorry - I should replied earlier, but I have been out of town!

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Now it makes sense. Perhaps it is in the "Z36 pending" group because Geno 2.0 will cover Z36. Thanks.
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« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2012, 02:20:43 PM »

Greetings Mitchell and welcome to the forum!

You have just inspired me to upgrade my L2+ to Z49.  I just ordered the test.  Richard Rocca will be happy.

Curtis Hays Pigman(Pigmon)
Curtis, or any one in the know:

Just curious how the testing works...Curtis Pigman ordered Z49 after me (or at least in the same batch as me) but got the results before me.

How does that happen?
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« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2012, 05:45:15 PM »

I don't know why yours might be taking so long.  Here is my Z49 order history:

Z49                   
     11/19/2012    Completed    490    
     11/14/2012    In Progress    490    
     11/14/2012    Batched    490    
     11/11/2012    Ordered    490
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« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2012, 06:57:33 PM »

Thanks Richard

I do hope his GenoChip order isn't also an error in Steve's tracker:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ago12PDVxPwwdGVOQWNuSlZad3gycHJOZFloeE85b2c#gid=0


Hi

As said it can vary!

All my SNP tests have mostly taken less than two weeks.  However Delton's Z36  test, kit N4630 has been waiting what seems like months.  I would love to know what batch his test is in?


Just placed the order.  How long does it typically take to get the results?

Thanks for the welcome.

Brian, thanks for bringing that up. Even though it is in the "Z36 pending" group, there are no pending orders for that kit. I will check with the other admins if they know why.

Now it makes sense. Perhaps it is in the "Z36 pending" group because Geno 2.0 will cover Z36. Thanks.
I think that's your answer Mitchell.  It will be tested when they get Geno 2.0 tests to go along with it.
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« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2012, 07:30:13 PM »

Here is mine info.  I also ordered 3 other snps at same time.  Would that slow it down?

Z49        
  11/14/2012 In Progress 490  
  11/14/2012 Batched 490  
  11/10/2012 Ordered 490
 
I ordered via FTDNA not National Geographic so would Geno 2.0 still be a factor?
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« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2012, 07:53:23 PM »

I think you need to ask one of the gurus.

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« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2012, 08:24:01 PM »

I sent Steve Gilbert an email
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« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2012, 09:17:56 PM »

Steve informed me it was normal to get results back from the same batch a few weeks apart.
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« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2012, 04:09:10 AM »

Steve informed me it was normal to get results back from the same batch a few weeks apart.

Yes, it's true that batch results from various kits can arrive weeks apart.

I haven't read an official reason for this disparity but I gather that some samples are simply faster to process than others. I know that my original 2008 samples used to take ages to return results -- I think I was often last man home in my batch, a long time after others -- but since sending new samples when I ordered Family Finder all of my results now tend to arrive early or "on time".  I took particular care to scrape well with my second set of samples.

If FTDNA gets inconclusive results from a given kit they will re-run the test up to 3 times (IIRC) before requesting a new set of samples.

So, that can be one reason. There are probably others, including the size of the batch.
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« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2012, 09:11:21 AM »

GTC,

Thank you for the insight.  My samples were taken in July so they are relatively new.
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« Reply #22 on: November 30, 2012, 09:27:18 AM »

sometimes samples have to be re-run. Watch your "pending results" for possibly new  result dates.
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« Reply #23 on: December 05, 2012, 07:19:23 PM »

I ordered the FTDNA family finder test at the same time I ordered these snps.   Got the results back from the family finder last night. 

I was thinking FF would take longer than the SNPs...
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« Reply #24 on: December 06, 2012, 06:23:34 AM »

I ordered the FTDNA family finder test at the same time I ordered these snps.   Got the results back from the family finder last night. 

I was thinking FF would take longer than the SNPs...


I ordered FF in 2010 when it was a new product. I was batched on Feb 17 and completed on August 8, so it sure took a long time back then!
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