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« on: November 01, 2012, 02:35:44 PM »

What SNPs are downstream of Z2105?

How in depth does Geno 2.0 test?  Will it test as far as it can downstream from Z2105?
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« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2012, 04:16:48 PM »

What SNPs are downstream of Z2105?

How in depth does Geno 2.0 test?  Will it test as far as it can downstream from Z2105?

Downstream from Z2105 there are L277 and L584. I'd be curious to know which SNPs are tested by Geno 2.0 too.
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« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2012, 04:51:14 PM »

Thanks for response, Maliclavelli .  If someone is Z2105+ then will they have to test positive for either L277 or L584 since they're both downstream or do they just remain Z2105- until new SNPS are discovered?  Therefor, would Z2105- be the end of the line? 

Downstream from Z2105 there are L277 and L584.
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« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2012, 11:10:53 PM »

If someone is Z2105+ then will they have to test positive for either L277 or L584 since they're both downstream or do they just remain Z2105- until new SNPS are discovered?  Therefor, would Z2105- be the end of the line? 

Who is Z2105+ may be Z2105*, i.e. to be negative for L277 and L584 (and this is my case and of the totality of Western Europeans so far: I know only Swiss Burkhkolder and Italian Manno who are L277+, none L584+) or to be positive for L277 or for L584, and this is the case of the most part of Middle Eastern Z2105+. Someone has also some SNPs under L584+.

What we are searching for is an L23 who is Z2105-, but we haven't found him so far, and it isn't said that there is. Anyway this distribution so far demonstrates, I think, that L23 (and its ancestors) came from Western Europe and not from Middle east or elsewhere like the most part of people think.
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« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2012, 10:18:39 AM »

Then if I am positive for Z2105 then the only tests left to take would be L277 and L584.  Trying to find which tests can help everyone's data the best. 


If someone is Z2105+ then will they have to test positive for either L277 or L584 since they're both downstream or do they just remain Z2105- until new SNPS are discovered?  Therefor, would Z2105- be the end of the line? 

Who is Z2105+ may be Z2105*, i.e. to be negative for L277 and L584 (and this is my case and of the totality of Western Europeans so far: I know only Swiss Burkhkolder and Italian Manno who are L277+, none L584+) or to be positive for L277 or for L584, and this is the case of the most part of Middle Eastern Z2105+. Someone has also some SNPs under L584+.

What we are searching for is an L23 who is Z2105-, but we haven't found him so far, and it isn't said that there is. Anyway this distribution so far demonstrates, I think, that L23 (and its ancestors) came from Western Europe and not from Middle east or elsewhere like the most part of people think.

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