Iberian R-L21*

[Jean M]

Yeah I recall that too from books going back a long long time.  I thought it was at one time considered that the Germani tribe were actually Celtic.

That would make sense I suppose. You do get coincidences of ethnonyms.

[alan trowel hands.]

Yeah I recall that too from books going back a long long time.  I thought it was at one time considered that the Germani tribe were actually Celtic.

That would make sense I suppose. You do get coincidences of ethnonyms.

Even googling I am not finding much about it.  I have definately seen this Iberian Peninsula Germani on tribal maps in books in the past.  I think too it was southern Iberia somewhere.  SE Iberia rings a bell.  I think some speculation about the Belgae was made but my memory if foggy on this. 

[OConnor]

The Vandals were not Goths and are supposedly from the Poland area..while the Goths were thought to have originated in Scandinavian.

The later Moors who ruled Spain for hundreds of years were expelled by a mix of people including Normans and Franks. The Franks originated east of France, and with conquest they ruled much of western Europe from France to Italy, including Switzerland.

Perhaps the Moors were a hoax also?

[Jean M]

The Vandals were not Goths

I know. The Vandals got to Iberia first, but were ejected by the Visigoths.