If someone is Z2105+ then will they have to test positive for either L277 or L584 since they're both downstream or do they just remain Z2105- until new SNPS are discovered? Therefor, would Z2105- be the end of the line?
Who is Z2105+ may be Z2105*, i.e. to be negative for L277 and L584 (and this is my case and of the totality of Western Europeans so far: I know only Swiss Burkhkolder and Italian Manno who are L277+, none L584+) or to be positive for L277 or for L584, and this is the case of the most part of Middle Eastern Z2105+. Someone has also some SNPs under L584+.
What we are searching for is an L23 who is Z2105-, but we haven't found him so far, and it isn't said that there is. Anyway this distribution so far demonstrates, I think, that L23 (and its ancestors) came from Western Europe and not from Middle east or elsewhere like the most part of people think.