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« on: September 17, 2012, 04:48:42 PM »

These are 4 K1c1f: the first is my wife from Sicily (FTDNA 211022), the others are the samples of Behar2012b:

A73G T146C T152C A263G 315.1C C498- A750G T1189C A1438G A1811G A2706G A3480G
A4769G C7028T A8860G G9055A A9093G T9698C A10398G A10550G C10698T T11299C G11377A A11467G G11719A A12308G G12372A C14167T C14766T T14798C A15326G C16179T T16224C T16311C T16519C


AY495245(European) Coble Haplogroup [K1c1a] 07-JAN-2008
A73G T146C T152C A263G 315.1C C498- C522- A523- A750G T1189C G1393R A1438G A1811G A2706G A3480G A4769G C7028T A8860G G9055A A9093G T9698C A10398G A10550G C10698T T11299C G11377A A11467G G11719A A12308G G12372A C14167T C14766T T14798C A15326G T16224C T16311C T16519C

HQ398201(Slovak) FTDNA Haplogroup [K1c1] 26-OCT-2010
A73G T146C T152C A263G 315.1C C498- A750G T1189C A1438G A1811G A2706G A3480G A4769G G6305R C7028T A8860G G9055A A9093G T9698C A10398G A10550G C10698T T11299C G11377A A11467G G11719A A12308G G12372A C12636T G13708A C14167T C14766T T14798C A15326G T16224C T16311C T16519C

JQ703815 Behar Haplogroup [K1c1f] 07-APR-2012
A73G T146C T152C A263G 309.1C 315.1C C498- A750G T1189C A1438G A1811G A2706G A3480G A4769G C7028T A8860G G9055A A9093G T9698C A10398G A10550G C10698T T11299C G11377A A11467G G11719A A12308G G12372A C13934T C14167T C14766T T14798C A14878G A15326G T16224C T16311C T16519C

We can see clearly that all the others derive from the Italian haplogroup of my wife before the mutation in 16179T.
With 16179T there are 4 known person so far: beyond my wife there are a Dane, a Slovak, an Ashkenazi woman. Unfortunately these last three haven’t so far had an FGS.
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« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2013, 08:38:41 AM »

Another K1c1f from Denmark:

KF161960(Denmark) Li Haplogroup K1c1f 01-OCT-2013
A73G T146C T152C A263G 309.1C 309.2C 315.1C C498- A750G T1189C A1438G  A1811G  A2706G  A3480G  A4769G  C7028T  A8860G  G9055A  A9093G  T9698C A10398G A10550G C10698T T11299C G11377A A11467G G11719A T11733C A12308G G12372A C13272T C14167T C14766T T14798C A15326G T16224C T16311C T16519C
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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2013, 07:01:05 AM »

Gioiello RSRS: HVR1 DIFFERENCES FROM RSRS: A16129G T16187C C16189T T16223C T16224C G16230A T16278C
HVR2 DIFFERENCES FROM RSRS: C146T C152T C195T A247G 309.1C 315.1C C497T 522.1A 522.2C
CODING REGION DIFFERENCES FROM RSRS:  A769G A825t A1018G T1189C A1811G A2758G C2885T A3480G T3594C G4104A T4312C G7146A T7256C A7521G T8468C T8655C G8701A G9055A C9540T T9698C G9932A A10550G T10664C A10688G C10810T C10873T C10915T T11204C T11299C A11467G A11470G A12308G G12372A T12705C G13105A G13276A T13506C T13650C C14167T T14798C A15924G
57 mutations

Francesca RSRS:  HVR1 DIFFERENCES FROM RSRS: A16129G C16179T T16187C C16189T T16223C T16224C G16230A T16278C
HVR2 DIFFERENCES FROM RSRS: C195T A247G 315.1C C498D 522.1A 522.2C
CODING REGION DIFFERENCES FROM RSRS:  A769G A825t A1018G T1189C A1811G A2758G C2885T A3480G T3594C G4104A T4312C G7146A T7256C A7521G T8468C T8655C G8701A G9055A A9093G C9540T T9698C A10550G T10664C A10688G C10698T C10810T C10873T C10915T T11299C G11377A A11467G A11914G A12308G G12372A T12705C G13105A G13276A T13506C T13650C C14167T T14798C
55 mutations

I am K1a1b1e and my wife K1c1f.

K1* was this:
K1* RSRS: HVR1 DIFFERENCES FROM RSRS: A16129G T16187C C16189T T16223C T16224C G16230A T16278C
HVR2 DIFFERENCES FROM RSRS: C195T A247G 315.1C 522.1A 522.2C
CODING REGION DIFFERENCES FROM RSRS:  A769G A825t A1018G T1189C A1811G A2758G C2885T A3480G T3594C G4104A T4312C G7146A T7256C A7521G T8468C T8655C G8701A G9055A C9540T T9698C A10550G T10664C A10688G C10810T C10873T C10915T T11299C A11467G A12308G G12372A T12705C G13105A G13276A T13506C T13650C C14167T T14798C

Why Behar 2012b gives to K1a* an age of 18433.3 +/- 1732.8 and to K1c* an age of 13935.2 +/-6402.4? Probably my wife's haplotype is the most ancient from the Italian Refugium and all the subclades, diffused above all out of Italy, derive from Italy like the subclades of K1a*.



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