The windmills I am jousting against are all those things that derive from a mythical mentality of all those who haven’t yet understood (and probably they won’t ever do it) that ancient Greeks discovered for the man the science. Science is the research of truth, whichever it is. Science doesn’t knows subterfuges, deceptions, cowardly actions.
What is a name? We don’t know the Italian surname of Argiedude, which he has kept always withhold, and who knew it (for instance the administrators of the North Italian project) never revealed it, and for me he is only “Argiedude”.
I have published, also here, some private letters. Do they contain something secret or are they treating arguments of public utility? If so, they may (they must) be published. This is to reason by a scientific point of view. We have known the letters of the Nobel Prize Eugenio Montale to his American muse Irma Brandeis (Clizia) long after her death, and probably he did desire that they weren’t ever published. In fact he always burnt his.
Many are speaking in these last hours about R-L51 and its maps both here and on Rootsweb. At the origin of this are probably some actions of mine and some letters:
9 ago (5 giorni fa)
“I noticed that R1b-L51 was missing from the data, and investigating a
little I realized the span of the y-dna sequenced by 1000Genomes isn't
the whole span of the y-dna in which SNPs have previously been found.
But it does grab the most important sections, so it's only a minority
of already recognized ISOGG SNPs that didn't appear in the 1000Genomes
data, L51 being unfortunately one of them (its position is effectively
outside the range sequenced by ISOGG)”.
Two Tuscan R-L51-s (and a Colombian) have been found by Richard Rocca,
who did another map of R-L51 after yours.
Hi, Gioiello, excellent, thanks.
My guess was that there were 4 L51 samples, and they were 2 Italians, 1 Mexican, and 1 Puerto Rican. Their sample codes:
Can you direct me to the webpage where Rocca talks about this? Also to his map.
Nice to hear from you again,
11 ago (3 giorni fa)
Argiedude, I was quoting by heart about the R-L51 and really in my
spreadsheet there are only these 3, but I confide on you and a little
bit changes. Of course the two Tuscans out of 51 tested (and Tuscans
were the only Italians on 1KGP) are very important. They do the 4% of
R-L51 in Central North Italy which is the same of your map. Richard
Rocca has done a new map of R-L51 and it is published onwww.worldfamilies.net
(R1b-L51 from the West « on: May 02, 2012,
12:09:40 PM »), where I write from years and now, after the default of
DNA-Forums, also many who wrote there. Also the 1 or 2 South-Americans
of Spanish descent are very important. Amongst other the map of RRocca
demonstrates that the presence of this haplogroup in Iberia is just in
the zone when the Italian agriculturalists landed 7500 years ago
(Valencia Region and Central Portugal): I have written a lot about
this just on my theory of the Italian Refugium.
Richard Stevens wrote to me (and about this is spoken also in a thread
on Worldfamilies) about your test of DF13. I have written this on
Worldfamilies: Re: R1b-L21* "true asterisk" DF13- people & DF63
« Reply #225 on: August 10, 2012, 08:54:28 AM »