World Families Forums - DF13* (xSubclades) What's The Status?

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
November 22, 2014, 12:45:34 PM
Home Help Search Login Register

+  World Families Forums
|-+  General Forums - Note: You must Be Logged In to post. Anyone can browse.
| |-+  R1b General (Moderator: rms2)
| | |-+  DF13* (xSubclades) What's The Status?
« previous next »
Pages: 1 [2] 3 4 Go Down Print
Author Topic: DF13* (xSubclades) What's The Status?  (Read 4718 times)
rms2
Board Moderator
Guru
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 5023


« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2012, 08:12:06 PM »

Thanks, Mark. I appreciate it.

I like it, too. It makes some things more difficult, but the benefits make the trade-offs worth it.
Logged

Mark Jost
Old Hand
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 707


« Reply #26 on: August 10, 2012, 08:28:11 PM »

It should be easy move a new member into a SNP group (or needs testing) and or move up the tree to a new snp slot... You dont even have to check any off modals or anything (mostly)

MJost

Logged

148326
Pos: Z245 L459 L21 DF13**
Neg: DF23 L513 L96 L144 Z255 Z253 DF21 DF41 (Z254 P66 P314.2 M37 M222  L563 L526 L226 L195 L193 L192.1 L159.2 L130 DF63 DF5 DF49)
WTYNeg: L555 L371 (L9/L10 L370 L302/L319.1 L554 L564 L577 P69 L626 L627 L643 L679)
rms2
Board Moderator
Guru
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 5023


« Reply #27 on: August 10, 2012, 08:48:53 PM »

It should be easy move a new member into a SNP group (or needs testing) and or move up the tree to a new snp slot... You dont even have to check any off modals or anything (mostly)

MJost



True. The biggest drawback is that it is harder now to contact all the guys from a particular region or to find them in the various categories.
Logged

Mark Jost
Old Hand
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 707


« Reply #28 on: August 10, 2012, 09:53:23 PM »

True but thats why you got Mike and his fantastic spreadsheet and people to use it.

MJost
Logged

148326
Pos: Z245 L459 L21 DF13**
Neg: DF23 L513 L96 L144 Z255 Z253 DF21 DF41 (Z254 P66 P314.2 M37 M222  L563 L526 L226 L195 L193 L192.1 L159.2 L130 DF63 DF5 DF49)
WTYNeg: L555 L371 (L9/L10 L370 L302/L319.1 L554 L564 L577 P69 L626 L627 L643 L679)
OConnor
Old Hand
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 676


« Reply #29 on: August 10, 2012, 10:34:57 PM »

DF1-, DF13+, DF21-, DF23-, L130-, L144-, L159.2-, L192.1-, L193-, L195-, L21+, L96-, M126-, M153-, M160-, M173+, M18-, M207+, M222-, M269+, M343+, M37-, M65-, M73-, P25+, P312+, P66-, SRY2627-, Z253-, Z255-


at a glance what snp's do I need to test.... to get a DF13$$ or DF13** rating?

I'll order them right away.
Logged

R1b1a2a1a1b4


R-DF13**(L21>DF13)
M42+, M45+, M526+, M74+, M89+, M9+, M94+, P108+, P128+, P131+, P132+, P133+, P134+, P135+, P136+, P138+, P139+, P14+, P140+, P141+, P143+, P145+, P146+, P148+, P149+, P151+, P157+, P158+, P159+, P160+, P161+, P163+, P166+, P187+, P207+, P224+, P226+, P228+, P229+, P230+, P231+, P232+, P233+, P234+, P235+, P236+, P237+, P238+, P239+, P242+, P243+, P244+, P245+, P280+, P281+, P282+, P283+, P284+, P285+, P286+, P294+, P295+, P297+, P305+, P310+, P311+, P312+, P316+, M173+, M269+, M343+, P312+, L21+, DF13+, M207+, P25+, L11+, L138+, L141+, L15+, L150+, L16+, L23+, L51+, L52+, M168+, M173+, M207+, M213+, M269+, M294+, M299+, M306+, M343+, P69+, P9.1+, P97+, PK1+, SRY10831.1+, L21+, L226-, M37-, M222-, L96-, L193-, L144-, P66-, SRY2627-, M222-, DF49-, L371-, DF41-, L513-, L555-, L1335-, L1406-, Z251-, L526-, L130-, L144-, L159.2-, L192.1-, L193-, L195-, L96-, DF21-, Z255-, DF23-, DF1-, Z253-, M37-, M65-, M73-, M18-, M126-, M153-, M160-, P66-

12 24 14 10 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 18


rms2
Board Moderator
Guru
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 5023


« Reply #30 on: August 10, 2012, 11:06:27 PM »

DF1-, DF13+, DF21-, DF23-, L130-, L144-, L159.2-, L192.1-, L193-, L195-, L21+, L96-, M126-, M153-, M160-, M173+, M18-, M207+, M222-, M269+, M343+, M37-, M65-, M73-, P25+, P312+, P66-, SRY2627-, Z253-, Z255-


at a glance what snp's do I need to test.... to get a DF13$$ or DF13** rating?

I'll order them right away.


Well Mike, my old friend, I would say you need to test for DF49, L371, and DF41.

You could test for L513, too, but I wouldn't do that one unless I had 406S1=11 and 617=13 or higher, or at least put it off until last. I don't think you have that combination.
Logged

df.reynolds
Old Hand
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 126


« Reply #31 on: August 10, 2012, 11:27:32 PM »

DF1-, DF13+, DF21-, DF23-, L130-, L144-, L159.2-, L192.1-, L193-, L195-, L21+, L96-, M126-, M153-, M160-, M173+, M18-, M207+, M222-, M269+, M343+, M37-, M65-, M73-, P25+, P312+, P66-, SRY2627-, Z253-, Z255-


at a glance what snp's do I need to test.... to get a DF13$$ or DF13** rating?

I'll order them right away.


Well Mike, my old friend, I would say you need to test for DF49, L371, and DF41.

You could test for L513, too, but I wouldn't do that one unless I had 406S1=11 and 617=13 or higher, or at least put it off until last. I don't think you have that combination.

Note he is DF1- == L513-
Logged
Mark Jost
Old Hand
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 707


« Reply #32 on: August 10, 2012, 11:30:39 PM »

DF1-, DF13+, DF21-, DF23-, L130-, L144-, L159.2-, L192.1-, L193-, L195-, L21+, L96-, M126-, M153-, M160-, M173+, M18-, M207+, M222-, M269+, M343+, M37-, M65-, M73-, P25+, P312+, P66-, SRY2627-, Z253-, Z255-


at a glance what snp's do I need to test.... to get a DF13$$ or DF13** rating?

I'll order them right away.

Using Mike's L21 Tree, the Bold SNPs are what you would need to be DF13$$. DF49 is in final testing to prove ancestrability and and you are already DF23-.

L513  DF21  DF49(last until final position is known)  Z253  Z255  DF41  L144  L371  L555  L96

Ok, moments after I posted this I read that Rich reports "DF49 is between DF13 and DF23" So test away at all remaining SNPs to get your Double Dollar Sign.

MJost

PS is this a word?? ancestrability or did i just coin it....
« Last Edit: August 10, 2012, 11:40:15 PM by Mark Jost » Logged

148326
Pos: Z245 L459 L21 DF13**
Neg: DF23 L513 L96 L144 Z255 Z253 DF21 DF41 (Z254 P66 P314.2 M37 M222  L563 L526 L226 L195 L193 L192.1 L159.2 L130 DF63 DF5 DF49)
WTYNeg: L555 L371 (L9/L10 L370 L302/L319.1 L554 L564 L577 P69 L626 L627 L643 L679)
rms2
Board Moderator
Guru
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 5023


« Reply #33 on: August 10, 2012, 11:52:23 PM »

DF1-, DF13+, DF21-, DF23-, L130-, L144-, L159.2-, L192.1-, L193-, L195-, L21+, L96-, M126-, M153-, M160-, M173+, M18-, M207+, M222-, M269+, M343+, M37-, M65-, M73-, P25+, P312+, P66-, SRY2627-, Z253-, Z255-


at a glance what snp's do I need to test.... to get a DF13$$ or DF13** rating?

I'll order them right away.


Well Mike, my old friend, I would say you need to test for DF49, L371, and DF41.

You could test for L513, too, but I wouldn't do that one unless I had 406S1=11 and 617=13 or higher, or at least put it off until last. I don't think you have that combination.

Note he is DF1- == L513-

Thanks. It's late here. I missed that.
Logged

rms2
Board Moderator
Guru
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 5023


« Reply #34 on: August 10, 2012, 11:53:31 PM »

If I were Mike I wouldn't bother with L555. Not unless he matches an Irwin.
Logged

OConnor
Old Hand
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 676


« Reply #35 on: August 10, 2012, 11:54:05 PM »

well I had a problem finding the path to order the tests...so I emailed FTDNA about testing for DF49, L371, and DF41.

Thanks guys

(Edit)I have no Irwin or the like matches.
« Last Edit: August 10, 2012, 11:57:44 PM by OConnor » Logged

R1b1a2a1a1b4


R-DF13**(L21>DF13)
M42+, M45+, M526+, M74+, M89+, M9+, M94+, P108+, P128+, P131+, P132+, P133+, P134+, P135+, P136+, P138+, P139+, P14+, P140+, P141+, P143+, P145+, P146+, P148+, P149+, P151+, P157+, P158+, P159+, P160+, P161+, P163+, P166+, P187+, P207+, P224+, P226+, P228+, P229+, P230+, P231+, P232+, P233+, P234+, P235+, P236+, P237+, P238+, P239+, P242+, P243+, P244+, P245+, P280+, P281+, P282+, P283+, P284+, P285+, P286+, P294+, P295+, P297+, P305+, P310+, P311+, P312+, P316+, M173+, M269+, M343+, P312+, L21+, DF13+, M207+, P25+, L11+, L138+, L141+, L15+, L150+, L16+, L23+, L51+, L52+, M168+, M173+, M207+, M213+, M269+, M294+, M299+, M306+, M343+, P69+, P9.1+, P97+, PK1+, SRY10831.1+, L21+, L226-, M37-, M222-, L96-, L193-, L144-, P66-, SRY2627-, M222-, DF49-, L371-, DF41-, L513-, L555-, L1335-, L1406-, Z251-, L526-, L130-, L144-, L159.2-, L192.1-, L193-, L195-, L96-, DF21-, Z255-, DF23-, DF1-, Z253-, M37-, M65-, M73-, M18-, M126-, M153-, M160-, P66-

12 24 14 10 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 18


rms2
Board Moderator
Guru
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 5023


« Reply #36 on: August 10, 2012, 11:57:03 PM »

well I had a problem finding the path to order the tests...so I emailed FTDNA about testing for DF49, L371, and DF41.

Thanks guys


Use the Advanced Orders menu and NOT the Advanced SNPs menu.
Logged

OConnor
Old Hand
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 676


« Reply #37 on: August 11, 2012, 12:13:04 AM »

Thank-you my old friend..the order is in.

 you should consider a trip up north sometime.
Logged

R1b1a2a1a1b4


R-DF13**(L21>DF13)
M42+, M45+, M526+, M74+, M89+, M9+, M94+, P108+, P128+, P131+, P132+, P133+, P134+, P135+, P136+, P138+, P139+, P14+, P140+, P141+, P143+, P145+, P146+, P148+, P149+, P151+, P157+, P158+, P159+, P160+, P161+, P163+, P166+, P187+, P207+, P224+, P226+, P228+, P229+, P230+, P231+, P232+, P233+, P234+, P235+, P236+, P237+, P238+, P239+, P242+, P243+, P244+, P245+, P280+, P281+, P282+, P283+, P284+, P285+, P286+, P294+, P295+, P297+, P305+, P310+, P311+, P312+, P316+, M173+, M269+, M343+, P312+, L21+, DF13+, M207+, P25+, L11+, L138+, L141+, L15+, L150+, L16+, L23+, L51+, L52+, M168+, M173+, M207+, M213+, M269+, M294+, M299+, M306+, M343+, P69+, P9.1+, P97+, PK1+, SRY10831.1+, L21+, L226-, M37-, M222-, L96-, L193-, L144-, P66-, SRY2627-, M222-, DF49-, L371-, DF41-, L513-, L555-, L1335-, L1406-, Z251-, L526-, L130-, L144-, L159.2-, L192.1-, L193-, L195-, L96-, DF21-, Z255-, DF23-, DF1-, Z253-, M37-, M65-, M73-, M18-, M126-, M153-, M160-, P66-

12 24 14 10 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 18


rms2
Board Moderator
Guru
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 5023


« Reply #38 on: August 11, 2012, 12:18:02 AM »

Thank-you my old friend..the order is in.

 you should consider a trip up north sometime.

I would love to go up there and visit you. I love Canada.

Maybe next summer, if I'm still above ground.

We'll probably both be in the DF13* category soon. ;-)
« Last Edit: August 11, 2012, 12:18:26 AM by rms2 » Logged

rms2
Board Moderator
Guru
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 5023


« Reply #39 on: August 11, 2012, 12:22:46 AM »

Actually, I'm kind of hoping for a DF49+ result. Really.

That way I can say to Miles (eochaidh), "Miles, I am your father!" ;-)



Uploaded with ImageShack.us
Logged

eochaidh
Old Hand
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 400


« Reply #40 on: August 11, 2012, 12:26:21 AM »

Actually, I'm kind of hoping for a DF49+ result. Really.

That way I can say to Miles (eochaidh), "Miles, I am your father!" ;-)



Uploaded with ImageShack.us


Dear God in Heaven!
Logged

Y-DNA: R1b DF23
mtDNA: T2g
rms2
Board Moderator
Guru
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 5023


« Reply #41 on: August 11, 2012, 12:33:40 AM »

Don't worry. I will probably fade and go into the West and remain DF13*.

(Now I am mixing a Lord of the Rings metaphor with my Star Wars metaphor.)
Logged

OConnor
Old Hand
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 676


« Reply #42 on: August 11, 2012, 12:38:46 AM »

ok Papa..(hehe!)

I'm sure I can arrange some free accomedations if you and your's should want to visit.
I'm retired now so I can assist you in finding your way around.




« Last Edit: August 11, 2012, 12:41:01 AM by OConnor » Logged

R1b1a2a1a1b4


R-DF13**(L21>DF13)
M42+, M45+, M526+, M74+, M89+, M9+, M94+, P108+, P128+, P131+, P132+, P133+, P134+, P135+, P136+, P138+, P139+, P14+, P140+, P141+, P143+, P145+, P146+, P148+, P149+, P151+, P157+, P158+, P159+, P160+, P161+, P163+, P166+, P187+, P207+, P224+, P226+, P228+, P229+, P230+, P231+, P232+, P233+, P234+, P235+, P236+, P237+, P238+, P239+, P242+, P243+, P244+, P245+, P280+, P281+, P282+, P283+, P284+, P285+, P286+, P294+, P295+, P297+, P305+, P310+, P311+, P312+, P316+, M173+, M269+, M343+, P312+, L21+, DF13+, M207+, P25+, L11+, L138+, L141+, L15+, L150+, L16+, L23+, L51+, L52+, M168+, M173+, M207+, M213+, M269+, M294+, M299+, M306+, M343+, P69+, P9.1+, P97+, PK1+, SRY10831.1+, L21+, L226-, M37-, M222-, L96-, L193-, L144-, P66-, SRY2627-, M222-, DF49-, L371-, DF41-, L513-, L555-, L1335-, L1406-, Z251-, L526-, L130-, L144-, L159.2-, L192.1-, L193-, L195-, L96-, DF21-, Z255-, DF23-, DF1-, Z253-, M37-, M65-, M73-, M18-, M126-, M153-, M160-, P66-

12 24 14 10 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 18


rms2
Board Moderator
Guru
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 5023


« Reply #43 on: August 11, 2012, 12:41:58 AM »

ok Papa..(hehe!)

I'm sure I can arrange some accomedations if you and your's should want to visit.
I'm retired now so I can assist you in finding your way around.


Awesome!

My wife and daughter are in Russia right now visiting my mother-in-law. They're going to Ukraine in a few days, and I gave the wife an FTDNA sample kit to get a sample from a male cousin in her mom's line.

Should be interesting. Not likely to be R1b, but we'll see (if security doesn't confiscate the kit before she gets on the plane to come home).
Logged

rms2
Board Moderator
Guru
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 5023


« Reply #44 on: August 11, 2012, 12:46:47 AM »

Well, I'm signing off now, gents.

It's late here, and I'm getting sleepy.
Logged

OConnor
Old Hand
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 676


« Reply #45 on: August 11, 2012, 01:01:48 AM »

I hope you get your eastern dna sample.

« Last Edit: August 13, 2012, 07:42:04 AM by OConnor » Logged

R1b1a2a1a1b4


R-DF13**(L21>DF13)
M42+, M45+, M526+, M74+, M89+, M9+, M94+, P108+, P128+, P131+, P132+, P133+, P134+, P135+, P136+, P138+, P139+, P14+, P140+, P141+, P143+, P145+, P146+, P148+, P149+, P151+, P157+, P158+, P159+, P160+, P161+, P163+, P166+, P187+, P207+, P224+, P226+, P228+, P229+, P230+, P231+, P232+, P233+, P234+, P235+, P236+, P237+, P238+, P239+, P242+, P243+, P244+, P245+, P280+, P281+, P282+, P283+, P284+, P285+, P286+, P294+, P295+, P297+, P305+, P310+, P311+, P312+, P316+, M173+, M269+, M343+, P312+, L21+, DF13+, M207+, P25+, L11+, L138+, L141+, L15+, L150+, L16+, L23+, L51+, L52+, M168+, M173+, M207+, M213+, M269+, M294+, M299+, M306+, M343+, P69+, P9.1+, P97+, PK1+, SRY10831.1+, L21+, L226-, M37-, M222-, L96-, L193-, L144-, P66-, SRY2627-, M222-, DF49-, L371-, DF41-, L513-, L555-, L1335-, L1406-, Z251-, L526-, L130-, L144-, L159.2-, L192.1-, L193-, L195-, L96-, DF21-, Z255-, DF23-, DF1-, Z253-, M37-, M65-, M73-, M18-, M126-, M153-, M160-, P66-

12 24 14 10 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 18


df.reynolds
Old Hand
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 126


« Reply #46 on: August 11, 2012, 01:07:34 AM »

Actually, I'm kind of hoping for a DF49+ result. Really.

That way I can say to Miles (eochaidh), "Miles, I am your father!" ;-)



Uploaded with ImageShack.us


Dear God in Heaven!

This is quite possibly the funniest thing I've ran across this week. :)
Logged
OConnor
Old Hand
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 676


« Reply #47 on: August 11, 2012, 01:10:49 AM »

It's right up there with Miles reference to "pots and pans" :))
Logged

R1b1a2a1a1b4


R-DF13**(L21>DF13)
M42+, M45+, M526+, M74+, M89+, M9+, M94+, P108+, P128+, P131+, P132+, P133+, P134+, P135+, P136+, P138+, P139+, P14+, P140+, P141+, P143+, P145+, P146+, P148+, P149+, P151+, P157+, P158+, P159+, P160+, P161+, P163+, P166+, P187+, P207+, P224+, P226+, P228+, P229+, P230+, P231+, P232+, P233+, P234+, P235+, P236+, P237+, P238+, P239+, P242+, P243+, P244+, P245+, P280+, P281+, P282+, P283+, P284+, P285+, P286+, P294+, P295+, P297+, P305+, P310+, P311+, P312+, P316+, M173+, M269+, M343+, P312+, L21+, DF13+, M207+, P25+, L11+, L138+, L141+, L15+, L150+, L16+, L23+, L51+, L52+, M168+, M173+, M207+, M213+, M269+, M294+, M299+, M306+, M343+, P69+, P9.1+, P97+, PK1+, SRY10831.1+, L21+, L226-, M37-, M222-, L96-, L193-, L144-, P66-, SRY2627-, M222-, DF49-, L371-, DF41-, L513-, L555-, L1335-, L1406-, Z251-, L526-, L130-, L144-, L159.2-, L192.1-, L193-, L195-, L96-, DF21-, Z255-, DF23-, DF1-, Z253-, M37-, M65-, M73-, M18-, M126-, M153-, M160-, P66-

12 24 14 10 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 18


Mark Jost
Old Hand
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 707


« Reply #48 on: August 11, 2012, 09:57:57 AM »

My wife and daughter are in Russia right now visiting my mother-in-law. They're going to Ukraine in a few days, and I gave the wife an FTDNA sample kit to get a sample from a male cousin in her mom's line.

Should be interesting. Not likely to be R1b, but we'll see (if security doesn't confiscate the kit before she gets on the plane to come home).

From what I understand, you could ship it by DHL back to you and they will mark it on the outer shipping container on the address side with the words “Exempt human specimen” as long as it is packaged in normal return leakproof (for liquids) or siftproof (for solids) primary receptacles that you would normally used.

Since the sample is an EXEMPT human specimen and it does not require special handling or paperwork. I dont think I trust getting it home hand carried via customs, airlines, ect.

MJost
Logged

148326
Pos: Z245 L459 L21 DF13**
Neg: DF23 L513 L96 L144 Z255 Z253 DF21 DF41 (Z254 P66 P314.2 M37 M222  L563 L526 L226 L195 L193 L192.1 L159.2 L130 DF63 DF5 DF49)
WTYNeg: L555 L371 (L9/L10 L370 L302/L319.1 L554 L564 L577 P69 L626 L627 L643 L679)
secherbernard
Old Hand
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 155


« Reply #49 on: August 11, 2012, 12:16:51 PM »

f26059   Durall   R-L21/DF13**  101922
DF13+ L513- DF21- DF49- Z253- Z255- DF41- L144- L371- L555- L96- L69- L195-
L319.1- L302- 4c
Durall is L69+ and not L69-. His L69+ result came from 23andMe and his WTY test.
As I am also DF13+ and L69+, I could be L513- DF21- DF49- Z253- Z255- DF41- L144- L371- L555- too...
Logged

YDNA: R-DF13+ L69+ DYS464X: cccc.3
mtDNA: U6a7a1
mtDNA of my father: U5a2c
YDNA of my maternal uncle: I1*
Ysearch and Mitosearch: UE9BU
Ysearch of my maternal uncle: CEC59

Pages: 1 [2] 3 4 Go Up Print 
« previous next »
Jump to:  


SEO light theme by © Mustang forums. Powered by SMF 1.1.13 | SMF © 2006-2011, Simple Machines LLC

Page created in 0.101 seconds with 19 queries.