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« Reply #225 on: December 02, 2012, 10:24:26 PM »

I feel rather questionable about things. I must admit I am probably low-man on the totem pole of genetic knowledge. I am confident with the results from the unravellings of genetic snps done in this forum by our dedicated members. How can this Geno-2 change what has been established by our own reserch?..or am I way out of touch with reality..and what people are suggesting?
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« Reply #226 on: December 03, 2012, 04:13:52 AM »

..... How can this Geno-2 change what has been established by our own research?..

The Geno 2.0 chip has thousands of previously untested SNPs. This includes many SNPs from the 1000 Genome Project which were not previously explored, as well as SNPs from someone who has done full-genome testing on Sardinians, as well as results from China not previously explored.

Another big benefit of the GenoChip is that for the first time, many currently synonymous SNPs are being widely tested, with the result being in many cases a determination that these SNPs are NOT synonymous (ie finding folks positive for one SNP but negative for the other).
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« Reply #227 on: December 03, 2012, 07:40:04 AM »

https://www.dropbox.com/s/j8yel8ddsq5o3rl/Geno-Y-SNPs.txt

I don't know which are on the V3 chip though!


Thanks gtc

On CeCe's site there is:

"Dr. Tim Janzen, 23andMe Ancestry Ambassador and ISOGG Y-SNP Tree Committee Member, is currently working on creating a file that will include the SNP positions for all of the SNPs on the GenoChip that are also found on the 23andMe v3 chip. I will add the link here when it is completed (probably tomorrow)."

As you say in due course!



Good question, but I don't know how we can tell at the moment.

The 23andMe data contains chromosome position details whereas the Geno 2 data that I've seen so far doesn't. That makes matching one with the other a tad difficult!

Maybe we'll get fuller info on the Geno 2 SNP set in due course.
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« Reply #228 on: December 03, 2012, 09:11:12 AM »

..... How can this Geno-2 change what has been established by our own research?..
Another big benefit of the GenoChip is that for the first time, many currently synonymous SNPs are being widely tested, with the result being in many cases a determination that these SNPs are NOT synonymous (ie finding folks positive for one SNP but negative for the other).

I'm hoping that they are able to split L21, L459 and Z245. :-)

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« Reply #229 on: December 03, 2012, 10:28:47 AM »

..... How can this Geno-2 change what has been established by our own research?..
Another big benefit of the GenoChip is that for the first time, many currently synonymous SNPs are being widely tested, with the result being in many cases a determination that these SNPs are NOT synonymous (ie finding folks positive for one SNP but negative for the other).

I'm hoping that they are able to split L21, L459 and Z245. :-)

-Kai

Would be nice, but the last I heard neither L459 or Z245 were included.

I don't think Z260 & Z290 were on it either but a Z260 result has just been reported in WTY so FTDNA have a primer for that one at last, something else for the L21* guys to play around with ?
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« Reply #230 on: December 10, 2012, 12:47:13 PM »

Some Y-DNA results have started to show up with new SNPs listed. See below

http://eng.molgen.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=766
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« Reply #231 on: December 12, 2012, 04:20:05 PM »

My L21 came in last night but I have no clue how to find the raw data. I am DF13 positive and negative for all known downstream SNP 's according to FTDNA.
The geno2 test just says L21 and I see no section to download the information.
I did see the transfer option to upload to FTDNA but it asks credit card questions so I hesitated since the price for such a transfer is not mentioned .
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« Reply #232 on: December 12, 2012, 04:23:57 PM »

They're saying on U106 that you transfer by electing to pay by invoice, then you get an invoice for $0. 
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« Reply #233 on: December 18, 2012, 04:24:31 PM »

The GenoChip: A New Tool for Genetic Anthropology

Note on figure S1 Richard Rocca and David Reynolds and other citizen scientists are acknowledged for their work on the Y Z/DF series. Well done guys.

"Figure S1. Sources of the Y chromosomal SNPs that have been included on the Illumina Bead Array. The total 15,733 Y markers resemble a merged collection of well-studied core markers (green) and a larger set of Y candidate SNPs (yellow). The pale yellow color indicates that no phylogenetic information has been reported by the authors."

" Overall, we collected and ascertained AIMs from over 450 populations. Containing an unprecedented number of Y-chromosomal and mtDNA SNPs and over 130,000 SNPs from the autosomes and X-chromosome, the chip was carefully vetted to avoid inclusion of medically relevant markers. The GenoChip results were successfully validated by genotyping more than 500 samples from the 1000 Genomes Project and private collections. "

"Our goals were to design, manufacture, validate, and test a state of the art SNP array dedicated solely to genetic anthropology and to genotype a large number of samples and populations to learn more about human history. The GenoChip is an Illumina HD iSelect genotyping bead array designed with over 130,000 highly informative autosomal and X-chromosomal markers, ~12,000 Y-chromosomal markers, and ~3,300 mtDNA markers. As AIMs are invaluable tools in population genetics and genetic anthropology for discerning subpopulations, we focused our efforts in collecting the most informative ones [29]. The autosomal and X-chromosomal marker sets comprised of over 75,000 AIMs were ascertained from over 450 worldwide populations, making it the largest and most detailed AIMs panel ever constructed (Figure 1). Half of our AIMs were culled from the literature and private data sets and the rest were calculated using infocalc [30] and AIMsFinder. We applied these two methods on global panels comprised of nearly 300 populations assembled from public and private data sets. Many of these populations are unique to our project and have never before studied or searched for AIMs."

http://arxiv.org/pdf/1212.4116v1.pdf

http://pinterest.com/gerardcorcoran/genographic/
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« Reply #234 on: December 19, 2012, 10:49:54 AM »

What is know of the transfer of Geno 2.0 to FTDNA? Will the results be incorporated and displayed on the tree as FTDNA currently does with the deep clade results?

Who has worked all the way through this process that might shed some light on what to expect - and costs to transfer???
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« Reply #235 on: December 19, 2012, 03:58:30 PM »

What is know of the transfer of Geno 2.0 to FTDNA? Will the results be incorporated and displayed on the tree as FTDNA currently does with the deep clade results?

Who has worked all the way through this process that might shed some light on what to expect - and costs to transfer???

First of all, there is no cost to transfer your Geno 2.0 results to FTDNA. I believe they have fixed the transfer so it is clearer this is the case.

When you transfer your results, It will update your SNPs on both your personal Haplotree as well as SNP results showing on projects listing them. In both places only the POSITIVE SNP results will be transferred (as there are far too many negative results to list). However, these two places give DIFFERENT results.  Your haplotree only lists the SNPs currently available for purchase at FTDNA, while the Project SNP page lists all of the positive Geno SNPs.

FOR EXAMPLE: I have taken my individual results and posted below. This first result is from my Y-DNA Haplotree


Your Haplogroup    Tests Taken
R1b1a2a1a1a4   Z9+ Z8+ Z7+ Z6+ Z381+ Z30+ Z2+ Z1+ V9+ V205+ V189+ V186+ U106+ P310+ P297+ P295+ P286+ P285+ P284+ P283+ P282+ P281+ P280+ P245+ P244+ P243+ P242+ P240+ P238+ P237+ P236+ P235+ P233+ P232+ P230+ P229+ P228+ P226+ P207+ P187+ P166+ P160+ P159+ P158+ P151+ P148+ P146+ P145+ P141+ P14+ P138+ P136+ P135+ P132+ P131+ P128+ M94+ M89+ M526+ M45+ M42+ M294+ M207+ M168+ M139+ L82+ L768+ L721+ L585+ L58+ L566+ L52+ L51+ L506+ L502+ L500+ L498+ L483+ L482+ L48+ L478+ L471+ L470+ L468+ L407+ L389+ L350+ L278+ L23+ L16+ L151+ L150+ L15+ L132+ L11+ Z343- L180- L179- L148-


This second results is from the Project SNP page (in this case, the U106 Project)

CTS10168+, CTS10362+, CTS10834+, CTS109+, CTS11358+, CTS11468+, CTS11575+, CTS11726+, CTS11985+, CTS12478+, CTS125+, CTS12632+, CTS1996+, CTS2134+, CTS2664+, CTS3063+, CTS3135+, CTS3331+, CTS3358+, CTS3431+, CTS3536+, CTS3575+, CTS3654+, CTS3662+, CTS3868+, CTS3996+, CTS4244+, CTS4364+, CTS4368+, CTS4437+, CTS4443+, CTS4740+, CTS5318+, CTS5457+, CTS5532+, CTS5577+, CTS5884+, CTS6135+, CTS623+, CTS6383+, CTS6800+, CTS6907+, CTS7400+, CTS7659+, CTS7922+, CTS7933+, CTS8243+, CTS8591+, CTS8665+, CTS8728+, CTS8980+, CTS9828+, F1046+, F115+, F1209+, F1302+, F1320+, F1329+, F1704+, F1714+, F1753+, F1767+, F1794+, F180+, F2048+, F2075+, F211+, F212+, F2142+, F2155+, F2402+, F2587+, F2688+, F2710+, F2837+, F29+, F295+, F2985+, F2993+, F3111+, F313+, F3136+, F33+, F332+, F3335+, F344+, F3556+, F356+, F359+, F3692+, F378+, F4+, F47+, F506+, F556+, F63+, F640+, F647+, F652+, F671+, F719+, F82+, F83+, F93+, L11+, L132+, L148-, L15+, L150+, L151+, L16+, L179-, L180-, L23+, L265+, L278+, L350+, L388+, L389+, L407+, L468+, L470+, L471+, L478+, L48+, L482+, L483+, L498+, L500+, L502+, L506+, L51+, L52+, L566+, L58+, L585+, L721+, L747+, L752+, L754+, L761+, L768+, L773+, L774+, L779+, L781+, L82+, M139+, M168+, M207+, M235+, M294+, M415+, M42+, M45+, M526+, M89+, M94+, P128+, P131+, P132+, P135+, P136+, P138+, P14+, P141+, P145+, P146+, P148+, P151+, P158+, P159+, P160+, P166+, P187+, P207+, P225+, P226+, P228+, P229+, P230+, P232+, P233+, P235+, P236+, P237+, P238+, P240+, P242+, P243+, P244+, P245+, P280+, P281+, P282+, P283+, P284+, P285+, P286+, P295+, P297+, P310+, PAGES00083+, PF1016+, PF1029+, PF1031+, PF1040+, PF1046+, PF1061+, PF1092+, PF1097+, PF110+, PF1203+, PF1269+, PF1276+, PF15+, PF192+, PF210+, PF212+, PF223+, PF234+, PF258+, PF2591+, PF2593+, PF2599+, PF2600+, PF2608+, PF2611+, PF2615+, PF2624+, PF263+, PF2631+, PF2643+, PF272+, PF2745+, PF2747+, PF2748+, PF2749+, PF2770+, PF278+, PF292+, PF316+, PF325+, PF342+, PF500+, PF5465+, PF5466+, PF5468+, PF5471+, PF5851+, PF5853+, PF5854+, PF5865+, PF5869+, PF5871+, PF5882+, PF5886+, PF5887+, PF5888+, PF5953+, PF5956+, PF5957+, PF5964+, PF5965+, PF5982+, PF6007+, PF601+, PF6063+, PF6091+, PF6145+, PF6246+, PF6249+, PF6250+, PF6263+, PF6265+, PF6270+, PF6271+, PF6272+, PF6404+, PF6409+, PF6411+, PF6424+, PF6425+, PF6430+, PF6432+, PF6434+, PF6438+, PF6443+, PF6463+, PF6494+, PF6495+, PF6498+, PF6500+, PF6506+, PF6507+, PF6509+, PF6524+, PF667+, PF719+, PF720+, PF725+, PF779+, PF796+, PF803+, PF815+, PF821+, PF840+, PF844+, PF892+, PF937+, PF951+, PF954+, PF970+, s10+, s3+, U106+, V186+, V189+, V205+, V52+, V9+, YSC0000067+, YSC0000072+, YSC0000075+, YSC0000082+, YSC0000166+, YSC0000176+, YSC0000179+, YSC0000182+, YSC0000186+, YSC0000191+, YSC0000194+, YSC0000201+, YSC0000203+, YSC0000205+, YSC0000207+, YSC0000213+, YSC0000219+, YSC0000224+, YSC0000225+, YSC0000227+, YSC0000230+, YSC0000232+, YSC0000233+, YSC0000251+, YSC0000269+, YSC0000270+, YSC0000279+, YSC0000288+, YSC0000294+, Z1+, Z2+, Z20+, Z22+, Z23+, Z24+, Z25+, Z26+, Z28+, Z29+, Z30+, Z31+, Z343-, Z344+, Z348+, Z352+, Z381+, Z6+, Z7+, Z8+, Z9+


EDIT:  Please note, the negative SNP results are from prior testing, NOT the Geno test. Unfortunately, there is no way to tell what positive SNP results are from FTDNA testing.
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« Reply #236 on: January 03, 2013, 08:26:08 PM »

My kit just came back. It was ordered on Oct. 11 and I have sent it to David for the L21 sheet.

It seems that I am really Bulgarian even though this would probably surprise my eight great grandparents who were: Irish - 4, Italian - 2, Pennsylvania Dutch (German) - 1, Pennsylvania Quaker (English) - 1.

They arrived at this because I am: 40% Med, 39% N. Euro, 19% SW Asia and 2.5% Neanderthal.

Aside from this commercialism, they still list me as R-M222. I have the huge csv file, but cannot decipher it. Is there any way to make your own tree from all of that data?
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« Reply #237 on: January 03, 2013, 09:16:05 PM »

Wow you actually match me. Notice your N Euro and Med is close to mine 41 NE and 40 Med. it claims I am Danish. However if you check all the reference populations none fit this 50/50 split like yours and mine.
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« Reply #238 on: January 03, 2013, 10:26:50 PM »

Ah, not so fast! I come out 41% North Euro, 40% Med, 17% Southwest Asian, and 2% Northeast Asian. I have 3 grandparents from Ireland, altough my maternal grandfather was Scots-Irish. My other grandparent was my maternal grandmother who was 100% French-Canadian. Most of her lines were from Normandy and Brittany, but she also has several lines from La Rochelle and her father's line was from Auvergne in the south central part of France.

I was listed as:

Y: R-DF23 (exactly correct)
mt: T2g (exactly correct)
1st match: Germany (not bad because of my 25% French)
2nd match: Tuscany (Romania was closer)

Out of all these test, Eurogenes EUtest is the closest at 75% English, 25% French and 23andMe's Ancestry Composition, which if you drop the non-specific and then use the remaining percentages, is 72% British/Irish, 17% Northern French/German, 7% Southern French/German (Iberian & Italian)* and 4% Scandinavian.

* A man from the Dauphine region of France (Southeast Alpine) shows fairly high Iberian and Italian along with his high French/German.
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« Reply #239 on: January 03, 2013, 10:50:41 PM »

I have 3 grandparents from Ireland, altough my maternal grandfather was Scots-Irish. My other grandparent was my maternal grandmother who was 100% French-Canadian.
I was unable to use my preferred screen name of Eochaidh here because it was already in use, so I chose Newragh which is a tiny townland in Louth where my gg-grandfather was born. I could not use it on the Geno site either, as Echoaidh was again in use, so I had to use Ua hEochadha there. I may have to use to use Ua hEochadha in the future as it seems that Eochaidh is everywhere before me.
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« Reply #240 on: January 03, 2013, 11:04:59 PM »

I have 3 grandparents from Ireland, altough my maternal grandfather was Scots-Irish. My other grandparent was my maternal grandmother who was 100% French-Canadian.
I was unable to use my preferred screen name of Eochaidh here because it was already in use, so I chose Newragh which is a tiny townland in Louth where my gg-grandfather was born. I could not use it on the Geno site either, as Echoaidh was again in use, so I had to use Ua hEochadha there. I may have to use to use Ua hEochadha in the future as it seems that Eochaidh is everywhere before me.

Sorry about that, but my surname is Kehoe, MacEochaidh/MacEochadha in Irish. My Dad was from Kilrush Parish in Co. Wexford. I also use "Kilrush98" at times. I've been on these forums since 2007.
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« Reply #241 on: January 03, 2013, 11:55:52 PM »

My surname is Kehoe, MacEochaidh/MacEochadha in Irish.
Is mise Hoy, Ó hEochaidh/Ua hEochadha in Irish.
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« Reply #242 on: January 04, 2013, 12:07:38 AM »

My surname is Kehoe, MacEochaidh/MacEochadha in Irish.
Is mise Hoy, Ó hEochaidh/Ua hEochadha in Irish.

Maith go leor. It was just a timing issue. To be honest, most of my matches are from the north of Ireland, so I may be from an O hEochaidh line that migrated south.

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« Reply #243 on: January 04, 2013, 05:13:06 AM »

Ah, not so fast! I come out 41% North Euro, 40% Med, 17% Southwest Asian, and 2% Northeast Asian. I have 3 grandparents from Ireland, altough my maternal grandfather was Scots-Irish. My other grandparent was my maternal grandmother who was 100% French-Canadian. Most of her lines were from Normandy and Brittany, but she also has several lines from La Rochelle and her father's line was from Auvergne in the south central part of France.

I was listed as:

Y: R-DF23 (exactly correct)
mt: T2g (exactly correct)
1st match: Germany (not bad because of my 25% French)
2nd match: Tuscany (Romania was closer)

Out of all these test, Eurogenes EUtest is the closest at 75% English, 25% French and 23andMe's Ancestry Composition, which if you drop the non-specific and then use the remaining percentages, is 72% British/Irish, 17% Northern French/German, 7% Southern French/German (Iberian & Italian)* and 4% Scandinavian.

* A man from the Dauphine region of France (Southeast Alpine) shows fairly high Iberian and Italian along with his high French/German.


Thanks for sharing this information. It looks like for those that are most concerned with their ancestral composition that 23andme is the best. It is good to know how connected we are to other groups (Mediterranean and Asian) but it is also good to see that the ability to distinguish the modern ethnic groups within areas such as Europe. With the drop in price to $99 it seems it would have been better than doing the Geno 2.0 for my wife. It also seems to be a good tool to use alongside Family Finder, especially for people more mixed than yourself and for those that were adopted or don't know who one of their parents were.

Do you have any idea if the Mediterranean portion of the DNA of Iberians, or other people in the Mediterranean, is assigned to a specific ethnic group?
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« Reply #244 on: January 04, 2013, 01:40:24 PM »

Ah, not so fast! I come out 41% North Euro, 40% Med, 17% Southwest Asian, and 2% Northeast Asian. I have 3 grandparents from Ireland, altough my maternal grandfather was Scots-Irish. My other grandparent was my maternal grandmother who was 100% French-Canadian. Most of her lines were from Normandy and Brittany, but she also has several lines from La Rochelle and her father's line was from Auvergne in the south central part of France.

I was listed as:

Y: R-DF23 (exactly correct)
mt: T2g (exactly correct)
1st match: Germany (not bad because of my 25% French)
2nd match: Tuscany (Romania was closer)

Out of all these test, Eurogenes EUtest is the closest at 75% English, 25% French and 23andMe's Ancestry Composition, which if you drop the non-specific and then use the remaining percentages, is 72% British/Irish, 17% Northern French/German, 7% Southern French/German (Iberian & Italian)* and 4% Scandinavian.

* A man from the Dauphine region of France (Southeast Alpine) shows fairly high Iberian and Italian along with his high French/German.


Thanks for sharing this information. It looks like for those that are most concerned with their ancestral composition that 23andme is the best. It is good to know how connected we are to other groups (Mediterranean and Asian) but it is also good to see that the ability to distinguish the modern ethnic groups within areas such as Europe. With the drop in price to $99 it seems it would have been better than doing the Geno 2.0 for my wife. It also seems to be a good tool to use alongside Family Finder, especially for people more mixed than yourself and for those that were adopted or don't know who one of their parents were.

Do you have any idea if the Mediterranean portion of the DNA of Iberians, or other people in the Mediterranean, is assigned to a specific ethnic group?

Armando,

For Southern Europe (Med.) 23and Me's Ancestry Composition is made from the following Reference Populations:
Italy (2 test groups)
No. Italy
Tuscan
Spain (2 test groups)
Portugal
French Basque
Greece
Romania
Bulgaria
Sardinia.

Like I say, though, a Frenchman may show Iberian or Italian. The same might be true of any Alpine tester.
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« Reply #245 on: January 05, 2013, 08:55:35 PM »

My surname is Kehoe, MacEochaidh/MacEochadha in Irish.
Is mise Hoy, Ó hEochaidh/Ua hEochadha in Irish.
To be honest, most of my matches are from the north of Ireland, so I may be from an O hEochaidh line that mirated south.

Two of my closer matches (one is the closest at 3 of 67), are MacGough and Gough who originate from the Meath and Monaghan border areas with Louth, so this may be right.

From my readings, I have learned that there were strong connections with Osraige before the Normans.
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« Reply #246 on: January 06, 2013, 05:07:07 AM »

Finally, my kit has passed the stage of quality control and I am 80% ready.
I hope that soon will come the results ..
I do not think there will be sensational news .. as I was already result U152+ L2+ L20+ and M228+ also ..
But it will be interesting to compare the results with others in Ftdna project U152.

Greetings.

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« Reply #247 on: January 08, 2013, 05:25:53 PM »

Does anyone know if it is possible to do an STR test on an existing Geno 2.0 DNA sample? Since the DNA is supposedly in the hands of FTDNA, if I transfer my cousin's results to a new account at FTDNA, would I be able to order an STR test after I did this? This would probably be easier than sending him a new test kit from FTDNA and asking him to send yet another cheek swab.
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mtDNA: J1c7a

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« Reply #248 on: January 08, 2013, 06:59:08 PM »

Does anyone know if it is possible to do an STR test on an existing Geno 2.0 DNA sample? Since the DNA is supposedly in the hands of FTDNA, if I transfer my cousin's results to a new account at FTDNA, would I be able to order an STR test after I did this? This would probably be easier than sending him a new test kit from FTDNA and asking him to send yet another cheek swab.

Your question is probably best directed to FTDNA themselves.
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« Reply #249 on: January 15, 2013, 05:35:44 PM »


Ciao..
Today arrived my geno 2.0 results and i tranferred all  to Ftdna.
I am always L20+..

From Ftdna .. the SNP positive...

Your Haplogroup Tests Taken
R1b1a2a1a1b3c1a
Z384+ Z383+ Z367+ Z148+ V9+ V205+ V189+ V186+ U152+ P312+ P310+ P297+ P295+ P286+ P285+ P284+ P283+ P282+ P281+ P280+ P25+ P245+ P244+ P243+ P242+ P240+ P238+ P237+ P236+ P235+ P233+ P232+ P230+ P229+ P228+ P226+ P207+ P187+ P166+ P160+ P159+ P158+ P151+ P148+ P146+ P145+ P141+ P14+ P138+ P136+ P135+ P132+ P131+ P128+ M94+ M89+ M526+ M45+ M42+ M343+ M294+ M269+ M228.2+ M207+ M173+ M168+ M139+ L82+ L768+ L721+ L594+ L585+ L566+ L552+ L52+ L517+ L516+ L515+ L51+ L506+ L502+ L500+ L498+ L493+ L483+ L482+ L478+ L477+ L471+ L470+ L468+ L389+ L366+ L350+ L278+ L23+ L20+ L2+ L16+ L151+ L150+ L15+ L132+ L11+ Z291- U198- U106- SRY2627- P66- P107- M73- M65- M37- M222- M18- M160- M153- M126- L4- L3-

Ciao
Giuseppe.-
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